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Revell's (not so) new 1:32 He 219 "UHU"

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i think revell is a lot closer in the head-on view, look at post 332: you have to disregard the weapons pylon/fairing and the light painted area on the side of the fuselage of the pic of the real plane. the windscreen is still a little too wide, but much more correctable the the ZM cross section IMO

also, look at the bottom of the front fuselage: the ZM seems to be completely rounded, the revell is flater, the original even more flat

Edited by blackbetty

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As for our US mates: Is anybody able and want to pay a visit at Udvar Hazy to compare the Revell and/or ZM fuselage and greenhouse first hand to the Uhu resting there with the help of his trusty Mk. I eyeball and to tell us about the results?

 

Regards!

- dutik

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Personally I like more simple models. Like hassegawa and revell latest models. They look great even out of the box but if you want something special then it is good starting point. Trumpeter and zukey to my view have many unused detail. But if model is out of shape then complex one is very difficult to correct like trumpy F4u.

and price for sure is also a key.

But for sure it is just my opinion

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Great post.

Like a few others i think Revell got most of the glass right but it is definitely broad and not tall enough.

Not a fan of the ZM front canopy but like the nose better.

I think whichever you build will end up looking good the Revell canopy issue will vanich with an open canopy anyway.

Great info everyone.

Ive got a couple of Revell kits and ill gab a ZM one as well.

I think it will be a thousand times easier to detail engines pre molded to fit the wings than battling for hours trying to fit after market resin into an already huge project.

Enjoy..

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Guest Nigelr32

Having looked through the available info some more, and now having the Tamiya kit and the Airframe Album to hand, I would like to put the cat amongst the pigeons....

 

We all know the Tamiya nacelles are too long, but, if the nacelles in the Tamiya kit are the correct diameter, the Revell ones are too small. The scale distance from the upper edge of the wheel bay to the trailing edge of the wing is also longer on the Revell kit, putting the wing too high on the nacelle? The height of the bulge the nacelle makes on the upper wing is the same height on the Tamiya and Revell kit, I mean, the same dimension, not the scale dimension. Also, the Revell nacelle upper surface is very flat compared to the Tamiya kit, and wider in scale. One of these kit's is out!!

 

Now, here's my point, if the nacelle is too small in diameter and the position is too low down on the wing, could it be a case of just cutting the upper nacelle away from the upper wing and packing it up, sanding and blending it in? This will correct the position and diameter in one action.

 

If you want to see pictures of any of the Tamiya parts, or would like comparative measurements, I have both kits.

 

BTW. Tamiya have captured the screen beautifully in my opinion.

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nige i think it is better way to compare all to real aircraft pictures.

i hope i will get revell model soon and will begin to research carefully.

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Guest Nigelr32

nige i think it is better way to compare all to real aircraft pictures.

i hope i will get revell model soon and will begin to research carefully.

 

I know where you are coming from misha, but when we compare to pictures, there are all sorts of variables, such as angle, light etc. I don't think we have any known correct drawings available??

 

For me, it all comes down to what looks right, and I think the Tamiya kit is better looking than the Revell kit, but I can't put my finger on just what is wrong with it.

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As posted pages ago - the Revell nacelle *is* too shallow over the wing compared to photo's - which supports what you're seeing in comparison with Tamiya kit.

 

*If* I get time this week I'll be doing some cutting and breaking out the Milliput - am confident I can improve on the shape of the Revell nacelles :)

 

Watch this space...

 

Iain

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Guest Nigelr32

Thanks Misha,

 

You know that I will start cutting my kit up if you send me drawings!!! :m0152:

 

I've PM'd my Email

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As I get nothing finished anyway, I really dont want to get involved in moulding new canopies etc. With this in mind I sent off an email to ZM concerning the canopy, and got this in response " Dear Greg, Thank you for your email. We have forwarded your message to ZOUKEI-MURA SWS Development team. Thank you for your interest in ZOUKEI-MURA SUPER WING SERIES."

Maybe something good will come of it as I believe a small enthusiast company like ZM takes getting it correct fairly seriously. Perhaps it is not too late to fix the canopy shape. One can only hope. If so, I will probably buy two, despite the higher cost.

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I'm not convinced there's any major 'issue' with the ZM canopy...

 

Look at the framing on the image of the NASM machine at right - the vertical framing - the fuller/rounder section is the canopy area behind the windshield. Maybe the area at the very top/rear looks a little out - but overall effect a lot closer to the prototype IMHO.

 

The views of the models also need rotating up a little to match the view of the real a/c.

 

 

 

comparison.jpg

 

 

Iain

Edited by 32SIG

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Guest Nigelr32

Iain,

 

We discussed this point back in posts 335 and 336, then AFV Modeller kindly posted this pic...

 

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I'm just wondering..... if you're looking at this area again, are you planning on getting the knife out today. How would you go about correcting the Revell screen to more closely match the original??

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One of us is going to start cutting soon, I can feel it in the clouds... trouble is, where to start????

 

Any ideas from anyone on how you would attempt to correct the Revell screen?

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