nmayhew Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Hi guys,i initially sounded out Derek Bradshaw of EMD about these on Scale Plastic and Rail, but thought I may as well throw it open here where it will get more exposure to guys whose focus is 1/32 (Derek was undecided about them)I would like to sound you all out on upgrades for the Trumpeter 1/32 Stuka...Here is a list of things that firstly I think an aftermarket manufacturer could provide VERY easily:- Correct spats - possibly the most important of the whole lot imho- Little propellers to go on the stubs on the spats- Replacement wheels (kit has rubber tyres - Mastercasters have some listed, but i would prefer someone else look at them if i am honest) [anyone have dimensions of the wheels, and whether they changed during the B series, or indeed for the D and G??]- Trop filter for B-2 / R-2 Trop (mega simple)Slightly more difficult perhaps...- Correct bomb cradle; the kit one is not for a B- 'Skinny' prop blade for B-1 version [can anyone provide me here with a definitive list, preferablly supported by scale drawings / pics, of all the different prop blades used by the Ju87 from B through to D and G??]- B-1 exhausts (would require the cowling panel surround as well)- B-1 radiator cowling (basically the kit seems to be a mixture of B-1 and B-2)- Correct B-2 radiator cowling (as above)Difficult / expensive...- Full correction set for everything forward of the engine firewall - the kit is just too small in this area (am thinking along the lines of the old Aires correction to make a Bf109 F-2, or EMD's P-40 nose set...)- Cockpit interiorHopefully some of the aftermarket guys will look at this? Depending upon what comes up, i will contact Roy Sutherland, although sadly the Bad Guys do not really seem his bag, Bob at MDC, Radu maybe...CheersNickPS guys if I have missed anything blindingly obvious here, please chime in Derek B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Williams Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Think you need the wing bomb racks too, as I don't think they are correct for a B either. How about underwing dive brakes, or at least the actuators? The ones in the kit are shown only in the extended position, which is somewhat unusual on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark P Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Well, having no interest in the B-1... However, the B-2 stuff looks great! Now, if you were to do everything forward of the firewall, probably two different sets? One for the B-1 and another for the B-2? Correct me if I am wrong, as I am going by memory, wasn't there an issue with the bomb slung under the fuselage? Mark Proulx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark P Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 BTW, as difficult as the bomb cradle is, I think it is important! Mark Proulx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnarg Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Most of my interest is in the B-1 or even better an A, but that is a major conversion kit. The Legion Condor Spanish Civil War color scheme with splinter camo drives that A desire, but they did use early B's. I like all of the B-1 items you asked about. I could be dragged (not even kicking and screaming) into doing a Hungarian B-2, so I would vote with my money for -1 and -2 fixes, but lots more of it for an A. I don't yet have the kit as I have too many others to deal with until some of these fixes are in place. There was an "A" announced at one time, but was that turned into the B-2 or delayed? Tnarg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KingK_series Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Hi guys, i initially sounded out Derek Bradshaw of EMD about these on Scale Plastic and Rail, but thought I may as well throw it open here where it will get more exposure to guys whose focus is 1/32 (Derek was undecided about them) I would like to sound you all out on upgrades for the Trumpeter 1/32 Stuka... Here is a list of things that firstly I think an aftermarket manufacturer could provide VERY easily: - Correct spats - possibly the most important of the whole lot imho - Little propellers to go on the stubs on the spats - Replacement wheels (kit has rubber tyres - Mastercasters have some listed, but i would prefer someone else look at them if i am honest) [anyone have dimensions of the wheels, and whether they changed during the B series, or indeed for the D and G??] - Trop filter for B-2 / R-2 Trop (mega simple) Slightly more difficult perhaps... - Correct bomb cradle; the kit one is not for a B - 'Skinny' prop blade for B-1 version [can anyone provide me here with a definitive list, preferablly supported by scale drawings / pics, of all the different prop blades used by the Ju87 from B through to D and G??] - B-1 exhausts (would require the cowling panel surround as well) - B-1 radiator cowling (basically the kit seems to be a mixture of B-1 and B-2) - Correct B-2 radiator cowling (as above) Difficult / expensive... - Full correction set for everything forward of the engine firewall - the kit is just too small in this area (am thinking along the lines of the old Aires correction to make a Bf109 F-2, or EMD's P-40 nose set...) - Cockpit interior Hopefully some of the aftermarket guys will look at this? Depending upon what comes up, i will contact Roy Sutherland, although sadly the Bad Guys do not really seem his bag, Bob at MDC, Radu maybe... Cheers Nick PS guys if I have missed anything blindingly obvious here, please chime in scratch build the lot..... not so hard.... and fun. I am sure Radu will agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Interesting feedback guys, with some very good ideas. I do not have this kit at present because I am busy amassing other Luftwaffe aircraft reference material and books at the moment. There is only one reason why I might consider looking at this aircraft, and it is not a million miles away from Grant's reasoning. So, although the Trumpeter Ju 87B Stuka is not on my radar at the moment, if I am ever lucky enough to get hold of a kit in the near future (and this is not my priority at present because I have other things that need doing more urgently) - and the relevant references - then who knows, I may be able to do something? Cheers Derek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bellis Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I hope someone at least does a corrected B-2 cowl for this kit. Spats & wheels would be nice, too. D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KingK_series Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Interesting feedback guys, with some very good ideas. I do not have this kit at present because I am busy amassing other Luftwaffe aircraft reference material and books at the moment. There is only one reason why I might consider looking at this aircraft, and it is not a million miles away from Grant's reasoning. So, although the Trumpeter Ju 87B Stuka is not on my radar at the moment, if I am ever lucky enough to get hold of a kit in the near future (and this is not my priority at present because I have other things that need doing more urgently) - and the relevant references - then who knows, I may be able to do something? Cheers Derek very cool that is exactly how I came to this kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmayhew Posted January 11, 2013 Author Share Posted January 11, 2013 ok, Derek looks like he may run with a project to do the easy add-on stuff: - spats - spat propellers - wheels - bomb cradle (will probably come with a 250 bomb) - Trop filter http://sparforums.com/ipb/index.php?/topic/2930-trumpeter-132-ju87-what-aftermarket-would-you-like-open-letter-to-manufacturers/ i will be donating (lending hopefully!) my kit for him to have some plastic in his hands, and trying to post a series of useful reference pics in the above thread; when my Kagero Monograph IV arrives - and if it does indeed have some plans (vol III is utterly devoid of them and basically pretty useless in this regard) - if will scan them and post them to him of course feel free if you already have plans etc to do the honours! PS please don't ask about the A series - i am not giving him my kit to make upgrades for this variant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Obviously, when I have the actual kit and references (I have nothing on the Ju 87 Stuka whatsovever) I shall be in a much better position to assess things and see what can be done along the lines that Nick suggests. I may therefore be asking for advice on this one as I go along and would therefore be grateful for any assistance that the membership can offer me? Many thanks Derek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyrre Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I have no idea what is needed to make the wing racks for an R-1 or R-2 correct, but that would be needed. (Or is the only correction to the real aircraft making the wings "wet"?) Derek B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KingK_series Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Obviously, when I have the actual kit and references (I have nothing on the Ju 87 Stuka whatsovever) I shall be in a much better position to assess things and see what can be done along the lines that Nick suggests. I may therefore be asking for advice on this one as I go along and would therefore be grateful for any assistance that the membership can offer me? Many thanks Derek Hey Derek bomb load was usually a SC250 and 4 x SC 50 alternatively one SC500 Derek B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Hey Derek bomb load was usually a SC250 and 4 x SC 50 alternatively one SC500 Thank you. Derek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KingK_series Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Thank you. Derek pleasure Derek look forward to meeting you someday?!! Derek B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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