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I used original MDD loft lines drawing for this work, same as Jumpei Temma, mentioned above. The main problem of ZM canopy, that it is too wide in the windshield area and slightly wider in the end, following whole nose shape. The radome is 2 mm wider then should be. Overall width is almost OK. Original Phantom canopy has perfect round cross sections full width. Armour glass shape is directed by simple straight cut of the resulting shape. Tamiya 1/32 F-4 canopy cross sections are "stretched" in width and differs from perfect round shape and 2 mm wider comparing to original.
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One more issue of Tamiya's F-4 is wrong cross-sections at the front of forward wheelwell. Laminar Flow had to repeat this contour after original kit part. To get more correct contour the set should involve more length backward. I really like Laminar Flow sets for Spitfires, based on very good models, but here they have more hard task.
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To get fix the Tamiya's Phantom you should replace whole nose section until the end of rear canopy fairing. This part is just to short, mostly in the RIO cocpit area. The canopy is too wide and too short also, noticeable in the rear hod length. When you try to make it closed, it looks just ugly. Fuselage cross-sections are far from perfect full length. Obviously, we need a new Phantom in large scale))
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I'm Alex from A.M.U.R. Reaver. We are still in business and continue to make some good stuff for 1/48 and 1/32. There are major problems with payment from guys outside Russia at present time. We just hope to better things in the future. As concerns 109 props, we replaced resin by 3D printed parts with magnets for easy assembling and installation. One of the future releases
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Similar, but not the same in shape and size.
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New renders from FB "Phantom Builders" page.
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Wanted - F-4J hyd window photo
Fencer-1 replied to Stevepd's topic in Aviation Discussion & Research
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Rear canopy with LOROP camera sights. Sorry for phone qquality photo. Front canopy details
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Thanks Thierry for explanation, yes, RF-4EJ is conventional Mitsubishi-built F-4EJ adapted to carry one of three (TAC, LOROP and TACER) reconnaissance pods. I intend to make one of them ( LOROP, I think) in 3D and then print. Many details are already made not only for cockpit, but for external airframe and engines.
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Just finished cockpit for RF-4EJ conversion from basic Tamiya F-4EJ. Quinta Studio + some custom 3D printed parts.
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I had some thoughts about such possibility. Some sources hint at such hypothetical chance of using early floor parts up to D-30 series. I had to made additional research to make sure in my initial conclusion. There are two reliable sources I can refer to: "Parts Catalog for P-47D-25 Through P-47D-40" and assembly drawing 89F11237 for corrugated floor for all P-47 up to D-25 model. Catalog doesn't have any other reference than 93F12237 (flat floor assembly). Drawing 89F11237 has some remarkable note: "See drawing 93F12237 for later P-47 models. This assembly (89F11237) is not interchangeable with 93F12237."
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I absolutely understand the reasons for such option. It was unclear when the flat floor was introduced, but today we can prevent wrong choice making some notice with 100% reference from factory drawings.
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The only P-47D I've built is 1/48 old good Monogram as David Schilling personal mount. It was around 25 years ago, and yes, no exepition, it had incorrect corrugated floor also. I just didn't know the difference that time. Many models have just "universal" cockpit for all P-47 variants and Monogram P-47 is one of them. Why should we continue to repeat old mistakes again when we know how it has to be done?
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It's just wonderful to have an options and you make great work here, but there is no real option for Razorback Jugs because of lack of rear bulkhead, early seat mount, armor plate, radio etc. It is obviously not universal cockpit set and intended only for Hasegawa's Bubbletop P-47s. Am I right? Modelers continue doing mistake selecting corrugated (even making it from scratch like here Another Hasegawa Bubbletop) floor for Bubbletop P-47D versions. In case of your beautiful set totally unclear what second corrugated floor intended for. I'm just try to point attention to these details one more time. With full respect to you, Alex. P.S. Fresh sample of incorrect choice: Beautiful Gabreski's Jug by Tolga Ulgur
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By the way, all "Bubbletop" P-47D versions, including D-25 had flat cockpit floor. MDC cockpit mistakenly represents corrugated floor of earlier Razorback up to D-23 model. Here is data table from Republic factory new flat floor drawing. It's clearly seen that it was installed from D-25 up to N-25 inclusive - all bubbletop series.
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Very promising start! I like JASDF Phantoms. My Hi-Res F-4EJ Kai & RF-4EJ walkaround from Hayakuri for the help: Hayakuri gate guards and More F-4EJ Kai go around procedure at Hayakuri.