RLWP Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) Yes, I know. I have a Revell MKI/MK.II 1:32 kit 04715 in my stash. Could it be built up as a PR? Richard Edited March 19, 2018 by RLWP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kagemusha Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 It's closest to the PR IV, Grey Matter produce a deep chin, not sure if their PR XIX windscreen would fit, but you'd be on your own with the bulges on the main canopy part. You can find builds online in smaller scales, which give an indication of what's required. RLWP and LSP_K2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chek Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Without a doubt - it's likely a better starting point than the newer Recell release, as it doesn't have the pot-belly under the wing. The surface detail is particularly good, though how much will survive eliminating the gun bays is a moot point. (Though the lo-level PR I G retained its armament and fighter windscreen). Detail such as (lack of) wheel bays and main landing gear themselves would be best replaced, and the missing gull wing fixed. I think Grey Matter cover the gull wing, while SAC and Barracuda or Eduard likely cover the main gear legs and wheels. The hardest part is likely to be sourcing or moulding the non fighter transparencies, either with or without the vision blisters. The deeper 'chin' fairing for the larger oil tank would also need to be made up with milliput or similar, but it's not as deep as on the later Merlin PRX or PRXi There's a decent article with a run down of the changes made to the PRiV here, but there are no doubt plenty more out there. RLWP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 It's closest to the PR IV, Grey Matter produce a deep chin, not sure if their PR XIX windscreen would fit, but you'd be on your own with the bulges on the main canopy part. You can find builds online in smaller scales, which give an indication of what's required. That's helpful Grey Matter do a full on PR.XIX conversion: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GMAA3215-SPITFIRE-PRXIX-389-HASEGAWA-REVELL-MKI-II-/221091608537?hash=item337a1637d9. That's a bit hardcore for me. I guess that would be the canopy. They also make this correction part: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GMAA3226-SPITFIRE-LOWER-FUSELAGE-CORRECTION-1-32-REVELL-Mk-I-II-SEAFIRE-Mk-/321378982611?hash=item4ad3ae1ad3 Is that necessary? Also, where would I find some information? Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 There's a decent article with a run down of the changes made to the PRiV here, but there are no doubt plenty more out there. That's useful too, for the article and the website Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 If I wanted to build a PR IV: It looks like Grey Matter have the fuselage correction: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GMAA3226-SPITFIRE-LOWER-FUSELAGE-CORRECTION-1-32-REVELL-Mk-I-II-SEAFIRE-Mk-/321378982611?hash=item4ad3ae1ad3 The enlarged chin for the oil tank: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GMAA3231-1-32-SCALE-ENLARGED-CHIN-SPITFIRE-PR-IV-/221230053341?hash=item338256b7dd The seat?: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GMAA3202-1-32-SCALE-COMPOSITE-SEAT-SPITFIRE-/221187189217?hash=item337fc8a9e1 The propeller?: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GMAA3213-1-32-SCALE-FOUR-BLADE-SPITFIRE-PROP-AFTER-MARKET-/222079568865?hash=item33b4f94be1 And possibly the canopy and windscreen in this set: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GMAA3215-SPITFIRE-PRXIX-389-HASEGAWA-REVELL-MKI-II-/221091608537?hash=item337a1637d9 So, I think that leaves wheel wells, seat belts, markings and whatever I need in the cockpit Right? Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kagemusha Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 I think the lower fuselage correction is for the olde Revell Spitfire/Seafire, Grey Matter will sell parts separately, just email them. The Barracuda seat is better, they produce some nice Spitfire products, Aires make a Mk V cockpit, which will fit, and will be similar to the IV. LSP_K2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 It would make for an interesting project, for sure. I still love the old Revell Mk I/II boxing, and really need to add another to my collection, as I sold off my last one. Chek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 I think the lower fuselage correction is for the olde Revell Spitfire/Seafire, Grey Matter will sell parts separately, just email them. The Barracuda seat is better, they produce some nice Spitfire products, Aires make a Mk V cockpit, which will fit, and will be similar to the IV. Being a cheapskate, and not afraid of soldering, I'm drawn to the Eduard interior and exterior sets for the cockpit, seat and wheel well It would make for an interesting project, for sure. I still love the old Revell Mk I/II boxing, and really need to add another to my collection, as I sold off my last one. Have you put up a build thread, Kevin? Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chek Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 It would make for an interesting project, for sure. I still love the old Revell Mk I/II boxing, and really need to add another to my collection, as I sold off my last one. Kevin, you can still get the original plastic which, at least in Europe, is now sold as the Seafire Ib. There's likely a bit more minor flash than on the original;, but the surface detailing is as sublime as ever. LSP_K2 and RLWP 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kagemusha Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 You might find this useful Richard http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2006/05/stuff_eng_profile_pr_spitfires.htm This is a useful book, though I can't believe how much it's going for, cost me a tenner a few years back, but you might find it much cheaper elsewhere http://www.amazon.co.uk/Merlin-Spitfires-Detail-Classic-Warbirds/dp/0958229651 RLWP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Have you put up a build thread, Kevin? Richard Unfortunately, I sold off the kit before I ever even started it. It was this specific boxing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Don't think you need the deep chin for a PR IV. Some of the early PRs had them (such as the PR type C), but not the IV. The PR XIX didn't have the side bulges in the canopy. Grey Matter do - or did - a specific PR canopy with the bulges: GMAA3234. If you can get hold of the two Ventura books Merlin PR Spitfires & Merlin PR Spitfires in Detail you'll find them invaluable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 If you can get hold of the two Ventura books Merlin PR Spitfires & Merlin PR Spitfires in Detail you'll find them invaluable. And broke! Grey Matter list the chin for the PR. IV. Browsing the internet I can find pictures and profiles of PR. IVs with and without it I'll see if our local library can help with the books Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 And broke! Grey Matter list the chin for the PR. IV. Browsing the internet I can find pictures and profiles of PR. IVs with and without it I'll see if our local library can help with the books Richard Interesting. The deep chin, as you know, housed a larger oil tank. It was present on the PR type C and type F, but as far as I can find, not on the PR IV. This had the extra oil tank housed in one of the redundant gun bays in the wing. Are you sure that the profiles showing the "deep chin" are not showing a Vokes filter? Some PR IVs certainly had those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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