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2 hours ago, Jennings Heilig said:

It “seems to be,” but “seems to be” and “is” are two different things entirely.  I’ve checked into this extensively, and gotten samples of the output, and the white is anything but opaque.  From what I can tell, pretty much useless for making decals.

Don't know about that as l got some printed decals from this guy

https://www.facebook.com/Philippine-Military-Scale-Models-1548733742048308/

and he gives you the printed decals and the white backing separate and they seem good to go all you have to do is seal them. l have seen them used and they seem pretty good but l have yet to try mine.

 

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I guess I’m biased, but there is nothing that comes close to silkscreen printed decals.  I’ve been doing them for so long, I know what works and how to work around things that are tricky.  The Alps could be used to do some really nice stuff, and their metallic cartridges can do things that no other medium is able to do (well), but as noted, you can’t find drivers, supplies are getting harder and harder to find, and you need a serial interface which no Mac has had in 20 years.  

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file:///C:/Users/micha/AppData/Local/Temp/Which_Driver_to_Use.htm

16 hours ago, Juggernut said:

Where do you get drivers for Win7?  J keep an old , coal-fired XP machine just so I can use the Alps printer?  I tried it on a Windows 7 machine but I could find no drivers to make it work.

 

They're in a Yahoo group. They're free to join and there's boatloads of

info about Alps printers. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Alps/info

 

They are also on FB  https://www.facebook.com/groups/107365966389391/

Click on 'files' on the left. For Win7 you need the 32bit version.

They do have drivers for Win 10 but you have to run virtual box software.

They also have drivers for Macs , for those interested.

 

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I've got two Alps printers and I find the finish very close to screen printed decals, the only issue is that you need a range of other colours which are available in Japan. You have to keep your wits about you when printing as each colour is a separate 'spot print' and your artwork has to be black for each colour that is selected. Don't forget that you can run Windows XP inside Windows 7 professional but you will need to fit a parallel port for the printer. Loading the driver for that was a bit of a trial as my PC is a 64bit machine but I managed it by letting the computer find the driver via the web. 

Graham

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10 hours ago, MikeMaben said:

https://www.amazon.com/parallel-usb-cable-bi-directional/s?k=parallel+to+usb+cable+bi-directional

 

For those interested, you'll need a bi-directional one.

 

 

Those USB to Parallel cables won't work trust me, I've been down that road three times. The only way to get your old Parallel centronics connected  printer to work is to install the card. Apart from anything else the driver software will only look for an LPT1 connection and not USB.

Graham

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As much as there is a market for printing white for the home hobbyist and even many small businesses, I have been puzzled why no one has bothered to really try and step in to make something other than OKI.

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On 8/31/2019 at 4:46 AM, GrahamF said:

I've got two Alps printers and I find the finish very close to screen printed decals, the only issue is that you need a range of other colours which are available in Japan. You have to keep your wits about you when printing as each colour is a separate 'spot print' and your artwork has to be black for each colour that is selected. Don't forget that you can run Windows XP inside Windows 7 professional but you will need to fit a parallel port for the printer. Loading the driver for that was a bit of a trial as my PC is a 64bit machine but I managed it by letting the computer find the driver via the web. 

Graham

I use an old custom XP Pro machine. I belong to the Alps yahoo group and have done artwork and decals which required up to 14 passes to make a single decal. The problem is even the ALPS white isn't opaque if you use a single layer. You have to stack two or three layers then layer the colors over that. Like Graham says, you need to do layers in spot mode and with black artwork, select the color you want to print to get good decals without obvious dithering. You have your choice of CYMK + White, also photo red, photo blue, photo green, metallic silver, bright silver, gold, metallic CYM, and a clear finishing ribbon. It worked for awhile, but with the later aftermarket ribbons and aging ribbons, it is getting more difficult getting good adhesion when layering. It is a little frustrating when you are needing to print 10 layers and the fifth layer shows streaks and tearing as it isn't sticking properly. Plus, after all those layers the decals are a bit thick.

It is really too bad someone didn't run with the technology and update and better it, because it was a really cool system.

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Hey Ray , I can''t imagine printing that many spot colors. I've only printed metallics

or white on layers, white when I need 2 layers for better opacity (works for me).

Multi color stuff I just print like any other image. Even colors like purple, the printer

will mix the blue and red to get very close to what I need in one pass. You're right

everything needs to be backed with white (except black) to aquire any opacity.

That's why white cartridges are a little more expensive.

Like you guys , I wonder why someone doesn't produce a white inkjet cartridge.

How hard could that be ??

 

 

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