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No, not a new song title, but trying to determine what shade of blue was used on the VF-143 F-14As in the light gull gray over white era.  I have the Furball Decals, and they specify Insignia Blue for the tops of the tailfins (that must be painted), but that will not match the blue trim of the tailfins and the three stripes on the forward fuselage.  Looking at photos on the web, the blue is definitely lighter than the dark blue of the insignia.  The hue varies with the photos too - in one photo it definitely has a hint of red in it which I can find no FS match for.  In others it looks less rich, so I am thinking something along the lines of FS 15050 Blue Angels blue as that would also be available through the Navy supply chain...

 

Jens

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It is my experience that blues almost invariably photograph (either on film or digitally) darker than they appear in real life.  I’ve been stung more than once doing decals with blues that were way too dark once I laid eyes on the real thing.

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I'll also add that blue is one of the hardest colours to mix at home.

Blue-greys - fine.

Blue-greens - fine. 

Thomas the tank engine blue - impossible.

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I asked my neighbor who is a retired VF-143 F-14 driver about this.  He said, "Hunh?  Blue? I don't know.  Maybe."  My point is he was there, saw and flew these airplanes every day for years and couldn't tell me for certain if the airplanes he flew were trimmed in blue, much less what shade.  Naval Aviation can be pretty flexible in some ways and many of the sources and experts out there these days have no first hand experience with the subject at hand.  Odds are, whatever shade of blue you choose will be close enough for government work.  Just sayin'......

 

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The Old Bald Guy

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1 hour ago, Oldbaldguy said:

I asked my neighbor who is a retired VF-143 F-14 driver about this.  He said, "Hunh?  Blue? I don't know.  Maybe."  My point is he was there, saw and flew these airplanes every day for years and couldn't tell me for certain if the airplanes he flew were trimmed in blue, much less what shade.  Naval Aviation can be pretty flexible in some ways and many of the sources and experts out there these days have no first hand experience with the subject at hand.  Odds are, whatever shade of blue you choose will be close enough for government work.  Just sayin'......

 

Cheers

The Old Bald Guy

 

Which is why I always take color memories (one of the least reliable forms of human memory as evidenced by significant research on human recall) with a large grain of salt.  I soloed in a 1978 Cessna 172N, N128ER on 8 August 1980.  I know the airplane was white with blue Embry-Riddle trim.  What color was the interior?  I have no earthly clue.  And I do this stuff every day. I couldn't tell you if the interior of an aircraft that is significant and clear in my memory 40 years ago (much less 75 years ago) was white, cream, blue, or purple polka dotted.

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I see Paul Boyer has replied to my post on the same theme at ARC, and he is suggesting FS 15123 - Mr.Color C65 Bright Blue.  That is what the new Academy kit is suggesting.  Looking at my FS 595 fan deck and the photos I found on line, that seems to capture the contrast and appearance, and going with Jennings' observation that blues look darker in photos than real life,  I think that will look just about right.

 

Jens

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