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Looks great!   Id go for the milliput...............give it a shot................the worst that can happen is you dont like it and remove it to use something else.

 

I think I will try the milliput....but I am hoping that I can make the seats to scale and don't make them too big, that's my worst fear.

But as you say, I will try it and if it doesn't work, I can simply remove it.  Thanks for the heads up Brian.

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Looking good so far! Where did you get your placards from?

Testors makes a flocking material you sprinkle onto your part, but I don't remember how it gets attached to the part.

Maybe you should look it up and give it a try.

By the way, good idea on the EZ wire. I'm gonna use it on my MH-60M for the cockpit and cabin roof. Thanks!

Clear up right!

Tim

 

Hey Tim,

the placards aren't actually placards.  I don't have any extra placards but I plan on getting some, I like the way that Oliver uses placards inside of his MH-60S build.

They are decals that I got from the Afterburner decals for my F-16 in Alaskan camouflage about 5 years ago.  They are just white writing on black background.  But they look the part I think.

The EZ wire is a great product, but because EZ line can be streched, they are a pain to get them to stay together when you have a couple of strands of them......lol

 

 

Richard

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So I was looking at another picture of a modern Kiowa, I saw something on the glare shield that I have to reproduce to make the 

glare shield look more like a modern Kiowa.  

 

 

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And in my haste to try the Archer rivets, I put them on incorrectly, this gives me the perfect time to replace them.

 

OK so I put tape so I won't file away all the details and continued filing away all of the indents at the top of the glare shield.

 

 

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Then I applied a strip of card to the area where I filed away the indents about 1 cm wide.  

And even though I looked at the ref picture, I knew that I wasn't able to create that handle in the middle, I just put a little piece of card to represent the handle (at least that what it looks like to me, but if I am wrong, please correct me.)  And then I cut the bolts and placed them on the card.

 

 

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Now the bolts that I put on top of the card, I will have to file them down a bit.

And then I replaced the raised rivets that I took off filing that area.

 

 

 

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Now, I am not a great scratch builder and I hope that I am creating a accurate Kiowa.  I am just trying to create what I see in the pictures.

More later.

 

 

Richard

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Just a few questions:

 

Pictures speak better that words:

 

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#1..Is this a lamp?  And can it be moved?  I see some kiowas with the "lamp" up near the top of the roof near the console just above  the pilots head.

 

#2  Don't worry about #2, I found the answer out.

 

#3.  The seatbelts.  Can I use the seat belts from the UH-60 PE set that I have for the kiowa?

 

#4.  What is this part?  And is it in all kiowa's.

 

 

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Is this the flight book or log book(I really don't know what it is called... :mental: )?

 

 

Thanks for the information guys

 

Richard

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OK.  So I tried to use Milliputt to create my new seats......lol......... :help:

 

I think that they turned out alright.  Now I have to wait for the milliputt to get rock hard so I can file it to shape.

The seats are on the left and the sheepskin cover for the seats are on the right.  The reason why I wanted to create the sheepskin

separate from the seats is because in my mind, they will be harder to add on the sheepskin when they are together.

 

 

 

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We will see what they look like tomorrow after I sand them. 

 

 

:help:       :help:       LOL.....

 

 

Richard

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Just a few questions:

 

Pictures speak better that words:

 

cockpit%201_zpsdbix5hde.jpg

 

 

#1..Is this a lamp?  And can it be moved?  I see some kiowas with the "lamp" up near the top of the roof near the console just above  the pilots head.

 

#2  Don't worry about #2, I found the answer out.

 

#3.  The seatbelts.  Can I use the seat belts from the UH-60 PE set that I have for the kiowa?

 

#4.  What is this part?  And is it in all kiowa's.

 

 

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Is this the flight book or log book(I really don't know what it is called... :mental: )?

 

 

Thanks for the information guys

 

Richard

1 is a map light and yes it can be removed and used by the pilots to illuminate what ever they need in the cockpit the cord allows it to be.  3. Yes you can they are very similar.  4. Not sure about 4 pm Floyd he can tell you.  That is a Kneeboard that we wear with checklists and commo info and paper to jot notes on. I believe that is a clamp for the M-4 that you built on the side of the glareshield.  They can lock them in and then use them if they need too.

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Richard,

I used scenic snow for the sheepskins on the Seahawk. Make a template of the seats with thin styrene first then cover that with scenic snow...maybe someone here has another trick to share on sheepskins. the build is looking good.

Oliver

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another thing you can do is if you have some leftover resin pieces, take some sandpaper and sand the piece and used the resin particles.  Coat the milliput with white glue and sprinkle the resin dust onto the part and that will simulate the sheepskin in a more scale appearance

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Very nice build with incredible details !

And i've just got the kit, which is very cheap (18€) but seems to be high quality, with a very crispy moulding. Your build will be my tuto. :)

 

 



another thing you can do is if you have some leftover resin pieces, take some sandpaper and sand the piece and used the resin particles.  Coat the milliput with white glue and sprinkle the resin dust onto the part and that will simulate the sheepskin in a more scale appearance

 

That's exactly what i did for my F-16 seat :

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Richard,

I used scenic snow for the sheepskins on the Seahawk. Make a template of the seats with thin styrene first then cover that with scenic snow...maybe someone here has another trick to share on sheepskins. the build is looking good.

Oliver

 

I saw that on you Seahawk build.  I don't think my hobby shop sells it because that was one of the things I was looking for when I saw that you did that on the Seahawk.  I think I will try Erick suggestion of using some 

spare resin parts and using it on a piece of styrene before I apply it though.  I tried to use spare resin on the blackhawk but it did not turn out right.  Now I didn't do it on a template of the seats, I did it on the actual pilot seat.

I don't know if that makes a difference or not, but I will try it on a SPARE piece (I have to remind myself of your suggestion....lol)  of material to see if that works.  

If not, then the seats will have to wait until I get some scenic snow online.

 

 

Richard

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Very nice build with incredible details !

And i've just got the kit, which is very cheap (18€) but seems to be high quality, with a very crispy moulding. Your build will be my tuto. :)

 

 

 

That's exactly what i did for my F-16 seat :

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I did this before on a F-16 Seat as well in the past and it came out looking amazing.

Now the picture above is exactly what I wanted my seats to look like on my last build which was the Black Hawk.  In the picture you can see the 

resin scraps are creating that sheep skin material that we all are looking for.  But when I primed my seats, the resin parts starting laying down and it didn't look like sheepskin.

 

Now on the F-16 seat that I did years ago, I didn't use a template of styrene and just applied the white glue on the seats and when I placed down the resin and primed it, it looked amazing.

On the Black Hawk, it did not.  So that was the reason why I was looking for another method.  But I will try it on a spare sheet of styrene and we will see.  Maybe I just didn't apply enough resin this time,

who knows... lol.

 

But thank you for the info and thank you for the pictures as well Zero77.

 

 

Richard

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I created my new seats from Milliputt.  Now because this was my first time creating seats from anything, It took me a little while.....lol!     :mental:

 

After about a hour of shaping and reshaping, and starting over and repeating the process again... I think I came up with my seats.

They are not done yet and I don't know if I will use them in the build, it depends on how they look when I am done.

 

I don't think it looks bad...

 

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Now in the above picture, I had to make the seats in two parts, the seat and the back of the seat.  I plan on putting them together

as one seat when I am done.

 

 

Richard

 

 

 

 

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Also while creating my seats, I knew that I wanted to add some sheep skin to the seats.

So I created some templates to add the sheepskin onto the seats cover.

 

 

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Once again, I don't know if i will use it.  It depends on the final rendition, but since this is my first time building seats,
any feedback, good or bad, would be appreciated.

 

 

Richard

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Making the seats as one.

Firs thing that I did was put in the map section on the back wall so I can measure where the seats are to be placed.

Then I taped the back of the seats into position.  Then I taped the wall to the cockpit floor.

Then I put the lower seat in the position that I wanted them to be in and then I glued the seat to the back of the seat.

 

 

 

 

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Now making sure the glue didn't go all the way through the seats onto the plastic, I then removed the seats from the wall and they stood rigid

Then using a very small piece of Milliput, I made small strips and joined the two together.

 

 

 

 

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That was my solution of joining the seats parts together to make it one seat.

Then while I had the seats together, I decided to scrap the sheep skin templates that I had made for the seats and I created some new ones.

 

 

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I waited a hour for the Milliputt to start to get hard and then I removed the templates so they can fully cure.

 

 

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Richard

 

 

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Looking at my model, I have been told that when I find a subject (reference picture) that I wanted to model the subject after, keep to it.

So I am modeling my Kiowa off of this reference picture:

 

 

 

 

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While waiting for the milliput to cure, I started on the console between the pilots.  I have always wanted to add switches to a console but I have never done so before.

Looking at the reference picture, I see 3 switches on that console.

 

 

 

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I decided that I wanted to try it.  I broke out a IP from the black hawk that I will never use and took out my smallest drill bit and proceeded to drill two holes.

then I placed 32 gauge wire in the holes and cut them to see what I was dealing with.  

 

 

 

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So onto the middle console.  I drilled my 3 holes and the only thing that I was thinking about was to put the holes in the correct location......LOL

 

So while I did two holes and inserted wire in them, on my 3rd hole, the damn bit broke....... :BANGHEAD2:

 

 

 

 

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Good thing that I was fortunate to have something that I can hold onto to remove the bit from the plastic.  After that I inserted the 3rd wire.

Then I applied CA to the wires to make them glue in place and then after the glue cured, I cut the wire to the appropriate sizes.  After that I placed a small tip of ca to the switches to make them look like

switches instead of wire.

 

 

 

 

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I know that someone will ask what happened to the back wall?  Well I made a mistake drilling in the holes in my back wall, but looking at the ref picture that I am modelling this Kiowa after,

I see a cover over the holes right next to the pilots seat on the right hand side that I need to make to cover my mistake on the holes.   

 

So give me some feedback on how you guys think the switches look, good or bad.

 

 

 

Richard

 

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