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MIG-23 Colour Help Please

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A while ago, I found some pictures of a Polish or Russian (??) MiG-23 in a three tone scheme of White, Medium Grey and Black, and another in White, Blue, Grey.

 

I am buggered if I can find the pictures now tho! Doh!!

 

I'm currently building the Trumpeter MiG-23 with every item of aftermarket I could lay my hands on and loved the above scheme but am annoyed I lost the info, can anyone help? 
 

Either the above Schemes or even a nice Natural Metal finish MiG would be my dream, can anyone help?

 

If someone happens to find the above three tone scheme, any ideas on the actual colours or MRP/Mr Hobby/Etc numbers?

 

Thanks so much in advance.

Edited by Aviacom

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I have spent best part of today, and got nowhere, on trying to cross over the paint Colors from the bottom jet scheme, into Hataka Orange Line, MRP, or Tamiya.

 

Please Please can some help me? Even if they are FS codes, that would help!! I’m going nuts!

 

Ive tried loading the Paints4models paint conversion chart but it doesn’t work on an iPad and I don’t have a PC.

 

Thanks in advance.
 

https://acrylicosvallejo.com/en/producto/hobby/sets/air-war-en/soviet-russian-colors-mig23-flogger-from-coldwar-to-90-vallejo-airwar-71606/

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24 minutes ago, Aviacom said:

I have spent best part of today, and got nowhere, on trying to cross over the paint Colors from the bottom jet scheme, into Hataka Orange Line, MRP, or Tamiya.

 

If you're talking about the bottom profile showing a multi-color grey camouflage scheme on the MiG-23, I'm 99% certain that's 100% pure fantasy.  I have never seen a Soviet AF MiG-23 with a camouflage scheme that looked anything remotely like that.  

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As I noted in your other thread, I think that multi-color grey camouflage scheme is fantasy.  I have never seen even a single photo of any MiG-23 wearing anything that looked like that, especially not Soviet.

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It's not fantasy. The profile of Bort 36 depicts the prototype/demonstrator of the MiG-23-98, a major upgrade proposed by RSK MiG back in the late nineties involving technology developed for the MiG-29. So, if you want to go that way, you'll have to make quite a few modifications to the kit. In any case, if you do a search for "MiG-23-98" you'll find multiple photos.

 

If you really want to do a machine in two-tone grey, you could also go for one of the Constant Peg machines operated by the US for DACT.

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15 hours ago, pvanroy said:

It's not fantasy. The profile of Bort 36 depicts the prototype/demonstrator of the MiG-23-98, a major upgrade proposed by RSK MiG back in the late nineties involving technology developed for the MiG-29. So, if you want to go that way, you'll have to make quite a few modifications to the kit. In any case, if you do a search for "MiG-23-98" you'll find multiple photos.

 

If you really want to do a machine in two-tone grey, you could also go for one of the Constant Peg machines operated by the US for DACT.


Do you have any web links for me to look at regarding the US MiG-23’s please?

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Constant Peg MiG-23MS, 4477th Test and Evaluation Squadron, USAF information and images:

 

https://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Visit/Museum-Exhibits/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/1162493/mikoyan-gurevich-mig-23ms-flogger-e/

 

https://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Portals/7/images/exhibits/MiG-23%20Red%20Eagles%2001.jpg?ver=2018-11-06-082840-517

 

https://theaviationgeekclub.com/constant-peg-program-mig-23-flogger-fighter-jet-named-air-combat-command-commander/

 

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/26372/usaf-mini-documentary-takes-you-behind-the-scenes-of-its-top-secret-cold-war-mig-squadron

 

https://www.fantasyprintshop.co.uk/shop/wolfpak-72-077-bandits/

 

Do keep in mind that the Constant Peg machines were MiG-23MS aircraft received from Egypt. The MiG-23MS was a heavily downgraded export version of the early MiG-23M, lacking the IRST system and using the old RP-22SM radar under a smaller radome. So, to do any of these aircraft, you'd have to start by modifying the Trumpeter MiG-23MF. Main changes involve omitting the IRST and sourcing a smaller radome required to turn it into a MiG-23MS. In addition, there are no doubt some smaller differences in aerials, cockpit, etc. associated with the early, downgraded MiG-23MS as compared to the later MiG-23MF.

 

 

MiG-23-98 prototype / demonstrator information and images:

 

https://ruslet.webnode.cz/technika/ruska-technika/letecka-technika/a-i-mikojan-a-m-i-gurjevic/mig-23-98/

 

https://www.1999.co.jp/image/10168425/60/1

 

https://www.1999.co.jp/image/10168425/60/2

 

https://www.1999.co.jp/image/10168425/30/1

 

For this aircraft, you'd have to start from the Trumpeter MiG-23MLD. Main visible changes would be an upgraded cockpit, and the addition of chaff/flare dispensers on the back. These are the same units as used on the MiG-29, so you could possibly pinch them from a MiG-29 kit and use them with some modification. In addition to that, there are likely other, more minor differences in antennae / dielectric panels associated with new equipment, and modified pylons for use with the new advanced ordnance that was integrated with this airframe.

 

Hope this helps!

 

 

 

Edited by pvanroy
Realized Trumpeter also do a MiG-23MF in addition to the ML and MLD - which makes modification to an MS for a Constant Peg machine a lot easier!

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