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#46 Lee White

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 12:01 AM

I remember those pics, from Aviation Week & Space Technology- The Floggers were on a goodwill trip to Finland.


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Posted 09 March 2018 - 10:18 AM

almost almost it looks nicer with the conical nose .... that flat nose looks a bit strange. How do you prefer it?

but a positive thing is that you could hang up the rocket launchers, while in the standard version no, right?


Edited by Luca, 09 March 2018 - 10:20 AM.


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Posted 09 March 2018 - 11:05 AM

almost almost it looks nicer with the conical nose .... that flat nose looks a bit strange. How do you prefer it?

but a positive thing is that you could hang up the rocket launchers, while in the standard version no, right?

 

For me that's not a preference in the shape but i like having different models in my display, and i have this very long term project to build a MiG-23 for each Warpac country. So a BN may be welcome to add some diversity.


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Posted 09 March 2018 - 03:20 PM

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But a positive thing is that you could hang up the rocket launchers, while in the standard version no, right?

 

No rocket pods on an M/MF, ML/MLA or MLD? 

 

Hold my vodka...

 

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MiG-23ML with UB-16 rocket pods. Kandahar, Afghanistan.

 

 

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MiG-23MLD armed with 16 FAB-100M54 bombs. Kandahar, Afghanistan.

 

 

In principle, each member of the MiG-23 fighter family was conceived to fulfill a secondary (more or less rudimentary) air-to-ground role, carrying iron bombs, unguided rockets or beam-riding Kh-23 missiles. The latter, however, reguired the installation of a Delta-NM guidance pod. Also, a good number of second gen MiG-23 airframes, namely the ML/MLA/MLD, were wired to carry a single RN-28 nuke. Even the IR-guided air-to-air missiles could be used against "hot and isolated" ground targets.

 

You've got to decide on what you want: a generalist or a specialist.

In case you'd need a specialist to move some mud and provide close air support, bring in the MiG-23BN or the MiG-27, MiG-27K, MiG-27M and MiG-27D. As to aesthetics: form follows function.

 

As far as I'm concerned, I'll be damned to mutilate my future MiG-23 fighter builds with A2G ordnance, unless it's the upcoming BN conversion or future MiG-27M releases.


Edited by Airfixer, 10 March 2018 - 02:06 AM.

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 06:41 PM

Awesome news! I hope an UB and MiG-27 will follow :-)



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Posted 14 March 2018 - 01:33 AM

No rocket pods on an M/MF, ML/MLA or MLD? 

 

Hold my vodka...

 

emeXZ45.jpg

 

bt5KI8U.jpg

 

MiG-23ML with UB-16 rocket pods. Kandahar, Afghanistan.

 

 

VjB6SGh.jpg

 

MiG-23MLD armed with 16 FAB-100M54 bombs. Kandahar, Afghanistan.

 

 

In principle, each member of the MiG-23 fighter family was conceived to fulfill a secondary (more or less rudimentary) air-to-ground role, carrying iron bombs, unguided rockets or beam-riding Kh-23 missiles. The latter, however, reguired the installation of a Delta-NM guidance pod. Also, a good number of second gen MiG-23 airframes, namely the ML/MLA/MLD, were wired to carry a single RN-28 nuke. Even the IR-guided air-to-air missiles could be used against "hot and isolated" ground targets.

 

You've got to decide on what you want: a generalist or a specialist.

In case you'd need a specialist to move some mud and provide close air support, bring in the MiG-23BN or the MiG-27, MiG-27K, MiG-27M and MiG-27D. As to aesthetics: form follows function.

 

As far as I'm concerned, I'll be damned to mutilate my future MiG-23 fighter builds with A2G ordnance, unless it's the upcoming BN conversion or future MiG-27M releases.

 

phenomenal summary , Thank You


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Posted 14 March 2018 - 01:55 AM

Well as a former ground pounder I find those fuel air bombs to be a thing of beauty...even though those were designed to be dropped on little old me. CAS baby!!


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Posted 14 March 2018 - 07:46 PM

Well as a former ground pounder I find those fuel air bombs to be a thing of beauty...even though those were designed to be dropped on little old me. CAS baby!!

 

Well, to put it in the vernacular of the time, "nothing makes jerky quicker than a fuel/air bomb".
 


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Posted 14 March 2018 - 08:12 PM

Well as a former ground pounder I find those fuel air bombs to be a thing of beauty...even though those were designed to be dropped on little old me. CAS baby!!

 

Got some good news for you:

An FAB-type general purpose HE bomb would have merely ripped you and me into tiny little pieces peppered with thousands of funny and oddly shaped bomb case shrapnels.

 

FAB = GP HE bomb

OFAB = GP HE fragmentation bomb

ODAB = that nasty thermobaric stuff... Crispy on the outside and somewhat fluffy on the inside. Lungs in particular.


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Posted 14 March 2018 - 08:17 PM

Got some good news for you:

An FAB-type general purpose HE bomb would have merely ripped you and me into tiny little pieces peppered with thousands of funny and oddly shaped bomb case shrapnels.

 

FAB = GP HE bomb

OFAB = GP HE fragmentation bomb

ODAB = that nasty thermobaric stuff... Crispy on the outside and somewhat fluffy on the inside. Lungs in particular.

 

Perfect! That's why I love them so much! I would have slung them all over my last 23 but I couldn't source enough. War is hell.


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Posted 14 March 2018 - 09:01 PM

I don't want to go too much off topic, but have you guys noticed how much the Russian Army is still dwelling on their artillery , especially rockets with thermobaric warheads?


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Posted 15 March 2018 - 02:13 AM

You're right.

Thermobaric warheads are highly effective against field fortifications, bunkers, tanks, tunnels, basement dwellers et al.

The Soviets were pretty quick to realise the potential of thermobaric ordnance and developed a wide range of applications.

 

By the way...

Over the past two decades, the concept of thermobaric ordnance has witnessed a remarkable revival in the West...artillery shells, 40mm grenades, shoulder-fired rockets, thermobaric AGM-114 warheads, programmed thermobaric air-burst ammunition, etc.

 

Nasty stuff. Very nasty stuff...


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Posted 13 June 2018 - 08:30 PM

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Posted 16 June 2018 - 08:21 PM

Thanks! Are there any other parts include in this conversion as well or only the front fuselage parts?

 

Any word on a possible MiG-23UB or MiG-27?

 

Thanks HPH!



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Posted 17 June 2018 - 01:59 PM

Info is only about the set for Trumpeter MiG-23ML with all different parts needed for BN version only.






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