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#1 RLWP

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 07:11 PM

And you guys complain about rigging WW1 planes! I spent the best part of an evening going cross eyed threading tiny bits of fabric(!) through minuscule bits of etch

 

Must be mad*

 

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*the lot of us!


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Posted 01 March 2018 - 07:17 PM

 I  have used them and they are beautiful when done but rediculous to build.  Take a look the fine mold  seat belts it will save your sanity

 

https://www.amazon.c...eat belts 1/32

 

http://web.ipmsusa3....ft-seatbelt-set


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Posted 01 March 2018 - 07:21 PM

Too late - the men in white coats are at the door


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Posted 01 March 2018 - 07:32 PM

Where possible, I leave the buckles attached to the frets and thread the belts through them first. Then when I detach the buckles, they don't go flying off into the ether.

This works as long as the attachment points aren't in the way of the belts.

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 07:35 PM

Where possible, I leave the buckles attached to the frets and thread the belts through them first. Then when I detach the buckles, they don't go flying off into the ether.

This works as long as the attachment points aren't in the way of the belts.

Carl

 

I did that, and cut a slight taper on the fabric too

 

It can still make rigging look easy  :blink:


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Posted 01 March 2018 - 08:10 PM

Where possible, I leave the buckles attached to the frets and thread the belts through them first. Then when I detach the buckles, they don't go flying off into the ether.

This works as long as the attachment points aren't in the way of the belts.

Carl

Dude, you are a freaking genius!  :doh: I literally spend 15 minutes looking for a buckle last Sunday, i cant believe i never thought of that. 

 

Here are the $4 belts I make. I bought a bunch of old (techmod) PE buckles from a local HS for $3 each, then I slice an edge off a dollar bill to fit. 

 

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 08:11 PM

I tried the HGW belts once, and swore I'd never do it again. 


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I was going to procrastinate tonight, but decided to wait.

 

In Progress:

 

 

 

 


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Posted 01 March 2018 - 08:14 PM

Love them, hated them until leaving them on the fret,.....
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Posted 01 March 2018 - 08:39 PM

 I  have used them and they are beautiful when done but rediculous to build.  Take a look the fine mold  seat belts it will save your sanity

 

https://www.amazon.c...eat belts 1/32

 

http://web.ipmsusa3....ft-seatbelt-set

 

I have difficulty shaping these belts. too brittle .Am I doing something wrong? Seat belts break at the adjustment hardware point... Any help appreciated,

 

Dick



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Posted 01 March 2018 - 10:56 PM

I used them for the first time on my P-51 build and TBH they were not that bad. A bit fiddly but they look great once done...

I also wish I’d thought of threading them on the fret. I’ll keep that tip in mind for the next set I use.
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Posted 01 March 2018 - 11:05 PM

I have difficulty shaping these belts. too brittle .Am I doing something wrong? Seat belts break at the adjustment hardware point... Any help appreciated,

 

Dick

 

Heat them a bit first. They mold nicely then.

 

But I still prefer, and live by, HGW belts. An awesome product IMHO.


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Posted 02 March 2018 - 11:47 AM

I've tried pretty much all the options.

 

HGW fabric

RB's

Fine Molds Plastic

Eduard PE

Eduard steel.

Barracuda moulded on

 

The plastic and steel ones are the easiest to use as all the fiddly threading (and painting) is pre done for you.

...but the HGW and RB ones look the most realistic.

 

In fairness, the ones that I have done that look the best are the BarracudaCast Bf109G pre-moulded ones as I was able to paint them nicely!


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Posted 02 March 2018 - 12:31 PM

I much prefer RB Productions belts, still fiddly but better than HGW in my opinion.
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Posted 02 March 2018 - 12:54 PM

My favourite are the RB ones, too. But the HGW are not too bad.

 

I dont think they are especially difficult to assemble. You just need some good tweezers and calm you down before starting.

Building them inside a box may be a good idea if you drop a micro-tiny PE buckle.

 

I prefer much more paper or fabric belts than PE belts.


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Posted 02 March 2018 - 01:01 PM

I dont think they are especially difficult to assemble. You just need some good tweezers and calm you down before starting.

 

Let's turn this around then

 

If you can assemble HGW fabric belts, you can rig a biplane. Only one of the parts in rigging is much bigger and easy to handle

 

Richard


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