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#211 Bstarr3

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 07:46 PM

The burnishing fluid I got is this: 

 

https://www.megahobb...jQaAhSHEALw_wcB

 

It appears to be a solution of some type of acid that interacts with the finish on the brass, turning it black.  I've seen online that it's the same as the chemical used for gun bluing (although not living in America I'm not sure how easy that is for you to get either)

 

I agree with Brian - the finish is nice, but it's quite delicate.  When I first handled it I saw that it began flaking off.  I had planned on using gunmetal pigments again like I did on the plastic parts of the guns, but seeing how fragile it was I decided to try lightly buffing it with a brush, and that worked well so I left it alone.  Yeah, the problem with these tiny PE parts and brass barrels is that they're really hard to sand.  I used self- etching primer on the kit PE, which seems to have done a nice job of priming those parts - haven't had any difficulty with paint adhesion.  But for these I thought I'd try the burnishing solution instead. 

 

This bomb bay has really been a bugger for me.  First I've spent an inordinate amount of time just looking at it, and trying to decide how I was going to proceed with assembling, masking, and painting.  I initally decided to leave the doors and actuator arms off and just tape over the bay itself.  So I installed the sidewalls without following the kit instructions to put the arms on first.  Now I've decided that the open doors can actually just be built into the masking, so I'm working to install them.  I got the idea of leaving the doors off til later from Brett Green's book.  What he did not mention is that, while possible, it's quite tricky to get those arms onto the sidewalls in the right alignment after they're already on the kit.  I've got them on, but I'm still not sure if they're right, or symmetrical from side to side.  So, we'll see. 

 

Finally, another question: the kit instructions call for the inner surfaces of the engine cowling panels to be painted AS-12, or bare metal silver. Since there were some other inaccurate color callouts on the gear bay, I was wondering if this is accurate, or interior green?  I can't seem to find any pictures of the inside of the cowling panels on a real plane. 


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Posted 18 February 2018 - 05:21 AM

Big update today. First, here is completely finished ordinance bay with doors on.

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I would recommend not doing it as I did. If you want to leave the doors off, do so, but make sure all the struts,arms, and supports are attached as per the instructions.

I will be modelling a plane with individual stack exhausts that has had the dampeners removed. I painted the side cooling panels in aluminum. I will temporarily apply the dampeners for painting the camo, leaving the bare metal when they are removed, as in the pictures.

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Cowlings all buttoned up. I will say, the fit is not perfect. I'm hoping it cleans up a little after installing the spinners on front.

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Insides of the cowlings panels. I tried to make the lower ones pretty dirty from oil stains, as I imagine they were.

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Cockpit framing dryfitted

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Nose cone dryfitted

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And the most disappointing part of the kit - why Tamiya? This intake screen could so easily have been done in PE, like the radiators. Why do it in clear plastic?

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And another update on the brass barrels - I would say using burnishing fluid to blacken the barrels has not been a successful experiment at this point. The surface was inconsistent, and inconsistently camm off when I tried to clean it. It may, however, have roughened up the brass to the point that it will take paint now. What do people usually do with these? I've used resin barrels before but not brass.


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Anyway, getting very close to the end of the construction phase of this project. Once the canopy and propellers are done, the next step will be masking the gear and bomb bays before starting on final surface prep and priming...
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Posted 18 February 2018 - 01:03 PM

That's some great progress you've made. I agree that the screens for the cowling are the worst part of the model. Still don't know why they did them that way. RB Productions make replacement ones in PE. They're well worth it and are easy to use.

For the brass barrels, I use an etching primer on them and then paint them in the usual way. Gunze make one in clear called Mr Metal Primer.

Carl

Edited by BloorwestSiR, 18 February 2018 - 01:05 PM.


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Posted 18 February 2018 - 06:48 PM

Thanks Carl. I am aware of the RB product, but it only comes along with the replacement radiator screens, which I've already used the kit parts. I'm just going to make the best of the clear kit part.

Thanks for the tip on Mr Metal Primer. I'll have to get some. For now, I'll probably just use therattle can etching primer that I used for the kit PE. It went very well for that. I might try decanting it into the airbrush so I get a good thin coat, and don't lose all the detail I payed for

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 10:22 PM

Well, I got some littlework done this morning, and then disaster struck.

First, the work.

First time masking the inside of a canopy, but since it's such a big canopy with lots of framing, I thought I'd give it a try.

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Interior cockpit framing. Detail painting on the flare gun and IFF transmitter (?)

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Picked up this beauty at a local artist shop. It's a 0 angled spotter, and it's awesome for detail painting in tight spots like cockpits.

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Also have the propellers assembled and primered. I plan to do these in an off black - I have MRP AMT6 black - with some salt weathering and chipping.

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Anyway, on to the misfortune. I've never gotten to the bottom of a bottle of Tamiya extra thin before. But when you do, you find that the brush doesn't reach all the way to the bottom. I've found myself sloshing the bottle around to get the brush wet. I sat down at my desk, preparing to affix the interior cockpit framing. I reached over, grabbed my bottle of Tamiya extra thin, and gave it an absent-minded shake.

It was then that I realized that the cap was loose on the bottle, as the entire contents of a 1/4 bottle of cement sloshed all over me and the port wing of my model. I blotted up as much of the excess as I could, but the damage is done. I also got a big thumb print on the starboard fuselage trying to handle it.

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At this point, the workshop was reeking of cement, and I was furious with myself, so I decided to walk away. The plastic is all soft anyway, so I'll have to wait for it to settle out. Hopefully it will all be fixable without terrible pitting. Best case scenario is a ton of sanding and rescribing. I'm pretty upset.
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Posted 21 February 2018 - 10:49 PM

Oh man! That's the kind of thing that will make you talk to yourself! Persevere as I feel sure you can sort it out okay. Nice work by the way. :)


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Posted 22 February 2018 - 02:32 AM

I definitely said a few choice words, John! I checked on it an hour or so later. The plastic had all hardened up so it didn't get glopped on there too bad. There are a couple of spots that may need filler to smooth out. I guess thank God there aren't many panel lines or rivets on the wing, but it's still going to be a huge PITA

Edited by Bstarr3, 22 February 2018 - 05:09 AM.

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 05:28 AM

Well, when everything is all said and done, it could have been much worse. I once splashed CA all over a painted and decal covered model. One last piece to apply and I created hours and hours of repair work. Luckily you weren't that far and you didn't spill the glue in to the open cockpit.

It's lookin' really good Brian.

Cheers,
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Posted 22 February 2018 - 11:02 AM

I feel for you looking at that, you did the right thing in walking away, think up a plan when you are nice and calm and set to.

I can well remember that sick feeling when I dropped a model when I was applying the final matt varnish coat, but it turned out well in the end.

 

Cheers

 

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 02:13 PM

FYI for those facing an almost empty bottle of Tamiya cement: Take off the cap/brush. Grab the brush just above the bristles with pliers. Twist/pull. The brush extends to reach the bottom of the bottle.


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Is this glue fingerprint in scale?


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Posted 22 February 2018 - 02:33 PM

The same thing happened to me last week, in my case the victim is a cockpit of Tempest mk.II. Paul Budzik is securing those pesky squared bottles by inserting them in to a base made of some lid that is filled with resin. Initially I was't too sure about it, but after several glue cleanings I have to reconsider my approach.

Good luck with the recovery, your Mossie looks fantastic.

PS: Brengun makes mesh with frames for British planes.

Cheers

Martin

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 03:05 PM

I don't often spill the glue. Have once or twice, the worst incident melted half the model and stuck my phone, various bits of plastic strip, a couple of plastic paint brushes and my architects ruler to the desk varnish. Whole bottle of Tennax. Binned that one, chipped the rest loose and refinished the desk. But paint? Usually contrasting colors, on delicate parts.


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Posted 22 February 2018 - 10:43 PM

Yikes! The damage as bad as it is, at least is repairable. Good thing to step away and calm down.

Back in 1985, I was bringing back from Asia a 1/48 F-4EJ kit and my first ever bottle of regular Tamiya cement. In flight the bottle must have leaked a bit as there was a hole through the wing of the Phantom. Nevermind that my suitcase stunk of cement. Good thing they didnt have sniffer dogs at the airport or they would've been high.

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 01:04 AM

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Don't worry , it's fixable.


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I just like airplanes

 

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 03:12 AM

Well, when everything is all said and done, it could have been much worse. I once splashed CA all over a painted and decal covered model. One last piece to apply and I created hours and hours of repair work. Luckily you weren't that far and you didn't spill the glue in to the open cockpit.

It's lookin' really good Brian.

Cheers,
Wolf


Yikes! Yes, thank goodness it happened before painting.
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