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#31 Gazzas

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 11:47 AM

HI everyone,

    After devoting a lot of time this weekend on my Albatros build, I spent some time on details.  Like...  I should have put the decals on before I did any weathering...  I also painted up the tools and added Friul tracks.

 

Here are some photos:

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I'm still not totally pleased with dusting.  Clear coats are still giving me trouble.

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The Afrika Korps palm always makes me think of my time in Desert Storm.  Many variations of the Afrika Korps palm appeared on USMC vehicles.  In my battalion, B battery had their Battery letter replacing the swastika over a stylized palm.  Another variation was the Eagle Globe and Anchor replacing the Swastika.

 

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I have yet to detail the exhausts...  Oh, and I have to add chains to the smoke grenades...

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Thanks for looking!

 

Gaz


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Posted 04 February 2018 - 12:26 PM

I think it's looking great.  You may want to consider wearing the tracks.  Contemporary photos seem to show quite a bit of wear and some rust:

 

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 02:06 PM

Looking really really nice Gaz, need to lay some paint on my G now.........
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Posted 04 February 2018 - 05:36 PM

I'd steer clear of rust.

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 06:16 PM

Why is that?



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Posted 04 February 2018 - 07:35 PM

Why is that?

Not lots of rust on in-service panzers in the desert.
Pictures of debris and burned-out tanks shouldn't be used as a weathering template for operational vehicles.
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Posted 04 February 2018 - 07:38 PM

I think it's looking great.  You may want to consider wearing the tracks.  Contemporary photos seem to show quite a bit of wear and some rust:

 

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Mark,

    Thank you! 

 

Although tank tracks rust quickly, they also polish up quickly when the vehicle is moving.  When I was a young Marine I served on the M109A3:

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When we ventured from the gun park onto the tank trails, the metal elements of the tracks became quite shiny as the dirt quickly removed the rust.

 

Gaz


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Posted 04 February 2018 - 07:40 PM

Looking really really nice Gaz, need to lay some paint on my G now.........

Phil,

   Thank you!  I'd be interested in seeing your G.

 

Gaz


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Posted 04 February 2018 - 07:58 PM

...the dirt quickly removed the rust.

 

 

 

Nature's scouring pad.


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Posted 04 February 2018 - 08:00 PM

Not lots of rust on in-service panzers in the desert.
Pictures of debris and burned-out tanks shouldn't be used as a weathering template for operational vehicles.

 

Look at the following, a photo of a semovente in the North African desert, during the time period:

 

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Sure, it's a wreck.  But you'll also see rust on the fenders, which I don't think was caused by a fire. 

 

This one shows rust on the exhaust:

 

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And this one shows signs of rust on in-service artillery pieces:

 

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I'd say that, unless the tanks were in a place where there was no moisture, there'd be some rust on areas where the paint wore off.  Myself, I'd add a little rust here and there.  To each his own, though.


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Posted 04 February 2018 - 08:18 PM

As an artilleryman, I can tell you that we cleaned our weapons daily in the field.  Rust is not tolerated.  Period.

 

We've no way of knowing how long these captured and damaged pieces were left unattended.  Rust only takes a short period of time to form. 

 

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 08:26 PM

Morning moisture will cause a flush of the bright surface rust on any metal surface, but it is quickly worn or wiped away over the course of the day. And the key word is in-service. All of the pieces shown in the photos are abandoned or captured and not undergoing routine maintenance.

 

The Tiger on fire was an abandoned vehicle that had been destroyed by U.S. engineers to prevent the Germans from recovering it later; it had been sitting in that field a few days already. The full sequence of photos showing the Tiger being prepped for detonation can be found online.


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Posted 05 February 2018 - 03:03 AM

Back again!

    I've been watching the Superbowl and trying to fanagle some figures into shape...

 

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Hmmmn...  they all seem to be looking at something....

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Thanks for looking.

 

Gaz


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Posted 05 February 2018 - 05:27 PM

Rusted exhausts make sense, and there's no substitute for powders. No rust-color paint can cut it.

 

Rusted tracks on German tanks are generally incorrect as they had a high manganese content that inhibited rust. Not saying they NEVER rusted, but it's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over-represented in the hobby.

 

Yes, exposed metal will get a bit of an orange film on it in the mornings, but by mid-day, it has darkened or worn off entirely.

 

And the photos referenced all show wrecks that have sat out in the elements, so as the oral examiners might say "not proved."


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Posted 10 February 2018 - 12:59 PM

Hello Gazzas,
Now I see why you buy big tubs of chalk sticks. LOL Very nice model and I like the weathering.

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