Tony T Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Trumpeter already makes MF and F.13... maybe a resin conversion should work with? The Eduard 1/48 PF, PFM and MF Fishbeds are stunning kits and make me pine for a large scale PF in particular. The Trumpeter 1/32 F-13 and MF kits were early efforts, and the F in particular requires a great deal of effort including a completely reworked inner windshield, trompe l'oeil inlet and lots of patience - I've had a Finnish F on the SOD for three years. Would love a falls-together shake-the-box new tool. Hopefully the KH Tiger will be a fun build, though I'm a bit confused as to whether the first release is an F-5F or single seat F-5E? Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 any news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Airfixer Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 (edited) Has there been any word so far which versions they're planning to wrap up with their projected 2000-5 kit? Technically speaking, a "-5F" would only comprise the French version. Any plans to cover the entire "-5/-9" family with a single boxing will necessitate proper subject research as well as some well thought out kit design and parts breakdown Given the various electronic warfare suites, each member of the "-5" family has its very own set of distinctive (and visible) features. An area where KH hasn't truly excelled, so far. Edited April 12, 2018 by Airfixer Luca 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Airfixer Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 (edited) Edited April 12, 2018 by Airfixer Kagemusha, Lothar, LSP_K2 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel111 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Can't wait for this one, although I'm really hoping for a D. Cheers, Marcel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkOwl Posted April 12, 2018 Author Share Posted April 12, 2018 (edited) Has there been any word so far which versions they're planning to wrap up with their projected 2000-5 kit? Technically speaking, a "-5F" would only comprise the French version. Any plans to cover the entire "-5/-9" family with a single boxing will necessitate proper subject research as well as some well thought out kit design and parts breakdown Given the various electronic warfare suites, each member of the "-5" family has its very own set of distinctive (and visible) features. An area where KH hasn't truly excelled, so far. 1. I do not think that KH and KH representative in US will answer any of your questions and certainly not use your expertise for their future Mirage 2000 kit. 2. I take the liberty to repost the illustration you include on your No.13 post here. In my mind, modifications to produce a Mirage 2000 C or a -5F or a -9 with some scratch work will be to the reach & ability of the majority of modelers, expeption made of the cockpits that will certainly be covered by aftermarket resin and/or photoetch manufacturers. SharkOwl Edited April 12, 2018 by SharkOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Airfixer Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 (edited) 1. I do not think that KH and KH representative in US will answer any of your questions and certainly not use your expertise for their future Mirage 2000 kit. (...) 1. I don't expect them to listen. Just expressing my concerns in view of the recently released F-5E. Kit options/content versus marking options = one big misleading clusterf***. 2. It's their job to get stuff sorted, not mine. Expecting them to use or even offering my "expertise"? The hell I won't! 3. Besides, calling in a bunch of evidentially competent experts during kit R&D won't necessarily result in a great kit. (The management might have totally different priorities and objectives.) (...) 2. I take the liberty to repost the illustration you include on your No.13 post here. In my mind, modifications to produce a Mirage 2000 C or a -5F or a -9 with some scratch work will be to the reach & ability of the majority of modelers, expeption made of the cockpits that will certainly be covered by aftermarket resin and/or photoetch manufacturers. SharkOwl The "-5F" is only one member of the family, I posted that pic in order to outline the basic differences between the 2000C and the 2000-5F. Just take a look at the various and notably different wingtip or vertical tail RWR/EW fairings of the -5F, -5EI, -5EG, -5EDA, -9EAD. Purely hypothetically speaking... Imagine KH came up with a baseline Mirage 2000-5F kit only providing the parts to build a -5F and a huge selection of decals and colourful marking options going the full monty of subversions and operators. Sounds familiar, doesn't it? Of course some of the details could be replicated using some elbow grease and tender loving care. Of course, poor modeller could hope for the aftermarket to chime in to remedy any "inconsitencies". Worst case: Most of the options can't be built straight from the box without one or another form of extra input. Again, sounds familiar, doesn't it? That doesn't mean anything. Maybe those folks at KH will eventually conclude that "less is more". KH is pretty much like Las Vegas - what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas. We won't know until the first test builds or sprue shots start popping up somewhere on the net. But please, not another F-5E clusterf***! I, for one, will be perfectly happy with a "tiret cinq". The one below is all I want in my display cabinet. Edited April 12, 2018 by Airfixer GeeBee and SharkOwl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkOwl Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 Song Wang from Kitty Hawk Models released a few hours ago these 3D digital renderings for her future project of a family of Mirage 2000 B / C / D / N at 1/32 scale. As for the availability of the first model of the Mirage 2000 C (5-F?), The first planned for this family, as we are on June 19th, I would say that we should rather think of a commercial availability for 2019. By the way, air intake panels are different from single seaters to twin seaters Mirage 2000. Panels proposed here on the single seater are in fact those of the twin seater. SharkOwl Reference : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2104022806523000&set=pcb.2104023053189642&type=3&theater Doctorgaz, LSP_K2 and Menelaos 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark31 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Bring it on im in for the N version Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I will have the Mirage 2000 (single seater),... no matter what. Kagemusha and Out2gtcha 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I will have the Mirage 2000 (single seater),... no matter what. Same, same, only the two-holer LSP_K2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menelaos Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 it doesn't matter if there are some issues...I'm waiting for it since I was...born,,,, LSP_K2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menelaos Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) Delta beauty... Edited June 20, 2018 by Menelaos Out2gtcha and LSP_K2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Yeah, there is something about the look of the Mirage 2K.........................very pretty airframe...............and Im not really a jet guy! Menelaos and LSP_K2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Yeah, there is something about the look of the Mirage 2K.........................very pretty airframe...............and Im not really a jet guy! I've had a weakness for Deltas for as long as I care to remember; F-102, F-106, B-58, Saab Viggen & Mirage 2000, with the Mirage 2000 (Greek/HAF) being right at the top of the list. Out2gtcha, Christoffer Lindelav and Menelaos 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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