red Dog Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 Happy New year everyone. I just discovered this morning that once again my maskol bottle I bought not so long ago turned solid and is useless It is unfortunately not the first time but rather the third time in a row although all bottles were closed correctly What is strange is that in the distant past I never had that issue and could store maskol bottles for years I feel it is not the case anymore So I need to source liquid mask and I want to try something else to see if I can avoid the above issue Any recommendation? I never actually used anything else than maskol over the years but like the humbrol paint I feel something has changed in their formula and it is not for the best Let me know what you guys use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigTT Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 Happy New Year to you too. I had the same problem with Maskol. I tried Vallejo masking fluid and it has been fine. Have had it for around 4 years now and had no drying out or solidifying, except for a tiny amount around the screw cap thread. I would definitely use it again. Nig red Dog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringleheim Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 My masking solution of choice is Mr. Masking Sol R. GSI Creos actually makes 2 of these; the one to get is the "R". My bottle has kept fresh for a few years now and I just used it the other day. For me, it's the best such product on the market. Woody V, tucohoward and red Dog 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrotten Highlander Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 Plenty of masking solutions in art supply shops, I use Winsor&Newton Art masking fluid. chukw, red Dog, MikeC and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 I had the same issue with mig version, what i did is add water to the bottle and shook it violently, came back works like new, i often add water to it. Ive had a bottle of Microscale Micro Mask for years works great but its allot thicker making it perfect for large surfaces but harder for small details red Dog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 Any latex can be used! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chukw Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 Winsor & Newton Art Masking Fluid. I've used an old calligraphic dip pen to apply it to drawings on paper, and that might work on models as well. If you use a brush don't let it dry- Ron Volstad used to call this stuff a brush killer! https://www.misterart.com/painting/watercolors/frisket/winsor-newton-art-masking-fluid.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red Dog Posted January 3, 2023 Author Share Posted January 3, 2023 Thank you all for your input. I think I'll try the Mr Masking Sol R next. To avoid killing your brush, you guys are aware of these? I actually never use brush to apply maskol, I rather use the above rubber pencils. great to apply and easy to clean Landrotten Highlander, Fanes, chukw and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Ive actually had a lot of experience with this kind of thing as of late..... I have been doing a lot of intricate masking for some landscaping and SiFi projects Ive been working on. Ive found there are basically two types of liquid mask type fluids available that I have used. 1. There is the Mr. Hobby type liquid masks, Like Mr Masking Sol R, and my personal preference, Mr Masking Sol NEO. It works like the R does, but I seem to have better luck with removing it, and it seems to cover better than the Sol R does when a minimal layer is used: 2. The second type of liquid mask I have found is the type like MicroScale makes, "Micro Mask": The main difference I have found with this one, is that is does not "roll" or peel off your work as easily, and is not as easily dislodged from your work. However, it I have found it basically does go back soft with the addition of a little bit of water. Although Mr Masking Sol NEO is my go to liquid mask, it might be useful to pick up some of the MicroScale stuff too, as I have found uses for it, where you want masking but cant really get to it to remove it as easy, and water seems to do a nice job of that. John Stambaugh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Stambaugh Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 A safe and easy way to remove liquid mask is to drag a peice of tape against the edge to lift and peel to remove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeroen_R90S Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 I've been using the Revell Color Stop stuff for several years, still works as good. My LHS does not order any new Maskol because they kept getting compaints about it drying out. FWIW the Revell stuff comes with one of those caps-with-integrated brushes. One drawback: it is not coloured so after it's dry it may be hard to see where it was applied. Jeroen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 On 1/3/2023 at 1:25 PM, Out2gtcha said: Ive actually had a lot of experience with this kind of thing as of late..... I have been doing a lot of intricate masking for some landscaping and SiFi projects Ive been working on. Ive found there are basically two types of liquid mask type fluids available that I have used. 1. There is the Mr. Hobby type liquid masks, Like Mr Masking Sol R, and my personal preference, Mr Masking Sol NEO. It works like the R does, but I seem to have better luck with removing it, and it seems to cover better than the Sol R does when a minimal layer is used: 2. The second type of liquid mask I have found is the type like MicroScale makes, "Micro Mask": The main difference I have found with this one, is that is does not "roll" or peel off your work as easily, and is not as easily dislodged from your work. However, it I have found it basically does go back soft with the addition of a little bit of water. Although Mr Masking Sol NEO is my go to liquid mask, it might be useful to pick up some of the MicroScale stuff too, as I have found uses for it, where you want masking but cant really get to it to remove it as easy, and water seems to do a nice job of that. Ive been trying to figure out the difference between the 2 mr solr and neo there is literally 0 information about the diff drive me nuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TankBuster Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Neo said: Ive been trying to figure out the difference between the 2 mr solr and neo there is literally 0 information about the diff drive me nuts I to have been wondering this and from what I have learnt the neo is thicker than the r, I have just purchased a bottle of neo and it is thick. Cheers. Neo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Actually, having used different species of such products I'm suspecting most if not all of them are just colored latex... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quang Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 25 minutes ago, thierry laurent said: Actually, having used different species of such products I'm suspecting most if not all of them are just colored latex... So true BUT… what really matters is the way use them, how you apply them, why you’re using them instead of masking tape, how fast they dry, etc. For all these reasons, the viscosity/thickness factor is essential to make your choice. In my case, I started years ago with Humbrol Maskol like everybody else. Nowadays I have these two products: My go-to is the Liquid Mask by Vallejo (I rarely touch the Masking Sol Neo which to me is too thick and difficult to apply with precision). For use, I put a drop of Liquid Mask on a piece of masking tape and apply it with the tip of a toothpick. HTH Quang thierry laurent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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