Close up wing fold images Seafire 47

[GrahamF]

Hi, I wonder if anyone has any close-up views of the wing fold on a Seafire 47? for checking purposes, mainly looking into the end of the wings, this type of wing fold is exclusive to the MK47, no other Seafire mark is of any use.

Thanks in advance.

 

Graham

[thierry laurent]

I will have a look but don't think there are a lot of things except the TM views. Unfortunately the system was removed out of the sole existing airframe.

[Hans]

Hi Graham, there is a photo on fineartamerica showing the details on the wing fold of the restored fr. 47: https://fineartamerica.com/featured/supermarine-mk47-seafire-jay-miller.html. I hope it is of any use. It appears to be operational, there is a video on Youtube showing the wings of the aircraft being folded hydraulically. 

 

Best regards, 

 

Hans 

Edited November 20, 2022 by Hans

[thierry laurent]

12 minutes ago, MARU5137 said:

https://www.baesystems.com/en-uk/heritage/vickers-supermarine-seafire

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermarine_Seafire

 

full of information.. 

and photos in linky  below.. 

https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-supermarine-seafire-fxvii-sx336-at-north-weald-airfield-essex-england-124358037.html?imageid=61878400-F94C-4BEE-907C-E50A1BC81E56&p=137384&pn=2&searchId=e99c52464018e60b13b3459b3c7b7012&searchtype=0

 

3 pages  and quite a few of folded wings.

Maru, this is the MkXVII. It used a different wing with a different system.

[thierry laurent]

1 hour ago, Hans said:

Hi Graham, there is a photo on fineartamerica showing the details on the wing fold of the restored fr. 47: https://fineartamerica.com/featured/supermarine-mk47-seafire-jay-miller.html. I hope it is of any use. It appears to be operational, there is a video on Youtube showing the wings of the aircraft being folded hydraulically. 

 

Best regards, 

 

Hans 

Strange as I'm clearly remembering pictures of the pit without the wing folding  controls! Can you give the link?

[Trak-Tor]

youtube.com - SeaFire Wing Folding

 

stonehengeairmuseum.org/seafire - 1947 VICKERS/SUPERMARINE FR MK 47 “SEAFIRE”

 

 

Contacting the museum would be my first step in getting some good pictures and other details.

 

Juraj

[thierry laurent]

9 minutes ago, Trak-Tor said:

youtube.com - SeaFire Wing Folding

 

stonehengeairmuseum.org/seafire - 1947 VICKERS/SUPERMARINE FR MK 47 “SEAFIRE”

 

 

Contacting the museum would be my first step in getting some good pictures and other details.

 

Juraj

Thanks very much! So it looks the airframe got back that mechanism. Interesting as initially they removed many systems out of the airframe and the plane was noticeably lightened. The FR47 cockpit was VERY cluttered but that airframe pit was finally similar to an initial Seafire one! She must be a real hot rod in the skies! I hope Graham will be luckier than me as years ago I tried to contact them for my Seafire kit. Alas, I never got a reply.

[thierry laurent]

The area for which most information are lacking is the gear wells. I worked from pictures of the Mk.XVII and F24 to get a probable replica as I never found good pictures and most models show that many details are missing in that area, even Jumpei Temma's masterpiece.

[Hans]

Hi Thierry perhaps the Seafire photographer of fine art america, Jay Miller has photos or is able to make photos of the wheel wells? You could contact him  

[GrahamF]

2 hours ago, Hans said:

Hi Graham, there is a photo on fineartamerica showing the details on the wing fold of the restored fr. 47: https://fineartamerica.com/featured/supermarine-mk47-seafire-jay-miller.html. I hope it is of any use. It appears to be operational, there is a video on Youtube showing the wings of the aircraft being folded hydraulically. 

 

Best regards, 

 

Hans 

Thanks Hans, that image is very useful.

 

Regards

Graham

[GrahamF]

39 minutes ago, Trak-Tor said:

youtube.com - SeaFire Wing Folding

 

stonehengeairmuseum.org/seafire - 1947 VICKERS/SUPERMARINE FR MK 47 “SEAFIRE”

 

 

Contacting the museum would be my first step in getting some good pictures and other details.

 

Juraj

Thanks Juraj, Had a look at the video before! Very noisy isn't it!

 

Regards Graham

[GrahamF]

21 minutes ago, thierry laurent said:

The area for which most information are lacking is the gear wells. I worked from pictures of the Mk.XVII and F24 to get a probable replica as I never found good pictures and most models show that many details are missing in that area, even Jumpei Temma's masterpiece.

Thanks Thierry, that's one area that I have some good shots, also most drawings that are wrong is the bulge above which is larger., they have it the same as the Spitfire 22/24 [ smaller ]

[thierry laurent]

38 minutes ago, GrahamF said:

Thanks Thierry, that's one area that I have some good shots, also most drawings that are wrong is the bulge above which is larger., they have it the same as the Spitfire 22/24 [ smaller ]

Hi Graham,

 

No, there is a major size difference.

 

This is a Mk22/24 one:

 

And now look at the two following pictures. you will see the bulge is FAR larger:

 

Hth

 

Thierry

[thierry laurent]

By the way, the derelict plane in my picture is VP441 years before the restoration. At that time she still had the gun bulges in the wing (another thing they removed during restoration).

 

Here's a good view of VP441 wings:

 

[GrahamF]

Nice, the aircraft skin is very smooth I note, so a lot of the rivets I reckon are not needed.

 

We've got a Seafire 46 in the UK undergoing a long-term restoration to fly.

 

Graham