Gazzas Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 27 minutes ago, Thunnus said: Does anyone know... can the vinyl tail wheel be painted? Will Mr Surfacer 1000 as a primer coat help? It can be painted. But every time the vinyl flexes, you will lose paint. John Stambaugh, Thunnus and HB252 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunnus Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gazzas said: It can be painted. But every time the vinyl flexes, you will lose paint. Thanks Gaz! Because the tail wheel is so small, I don't think it will flex much so maybe I'll be ok. As Matt pointed out, the wheel hubs are not close enough to the landing gear legs. There is a recess in the Trumpeter wheel part that is absent on the Barracuda part so I need to make an adjustment. I did some trimming and prepared another set of axle inserts. Here are the corrected landing gear legs. With the wheels in place... Edited November 21, 2022 by Thunnus Greg W, daveculp, Isar 30/07 and 17 others 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scale32 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Problem solving 1 0 1. Cheers Bevan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzas Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Sharpe work! Thunnus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Argudo Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 5 hours ago, Thunnus said: Yeah, I think this is worth a look... got a Yahu Panel ordered! John, the Yahu IP you need for the razorback is the early type, the one you posted in that picture is the late one in bubbletops Thunnus, HB252, R Palimaka and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody V Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 IMO, the Razorback is the most beautiful ugly thing ever, and that's why I love it so. Hopefully I'll manage to squeeze one in some day. Greg W, Rockie Yarwood, Brett M and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scvrobeson Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) Great fix John! The wheels and legs look better now. Looking forward to what comes next. It looks like if you want to replace the tail wheel, you've got the option of Eduard, Master Details, or True Details. They're the only sets that include a tail wheel Matt Edited November 21, 2022 by scvrobeson Thunnus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunnus Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 Thanks guys! 8 hours ago, Antonio Argudo said: John, the Yahu IP you need for the razorback is the early type, the one you posted in that picture is the late one in bubbletops Thanks Antonio! As you can tell, I'm not able to differentiate between the early and late instrument panels. The photo was of someone else's build to illustrate the great resolution of the Yahu panel. When I ordered mine, I made sure that it was the EARLY version. 2 hours ago, scvrobeson said: Great fix John! The wheels and legs look better now. Looking forward to what comes next. It looks like if you want to replace the tail wheel, you've got the option of Eduard, Master Details, or True Details. They're the only sets that include a tail wheel Matt Thanks for the sharp eye, Matt! I'll probably stick with the vinyl tire since I already have resin replacements for the main wheels. Antonio Argudo and scvrobeson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunnus Posted November 22, 2022 Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 I decided to work on the upper wings next and see what it would take to close the gun/ammo panels. I'm guessing that these panels were designed to be posed open to showcase the machine guns and ammo belts because the fit in the closed position isn't great. The edges around the panels are very thin, which is good if you are posing them open, but the raised lip around the edges of each panel opening are deeper than the panels, causing them to drop below the surface of the wing when fully pressed into place. There are different ways to address this issue... I decided to ring the openings with stretched sprue, effectively reducing the depth and bringing up the panels to the same level as the rest of the wing surface. It took a few tries using different sizes of stretched sprue. I also added a shim to the free floating connection between the two panels to give that joint more strength. The last thing I want is to have a joint crack during painting because of a weak glue connection. I'll let this sit and dry before I permanently weld the panels in place using Tamiya Extra Thin cement. There are still some gaps but that's ok as long as the panels are level with the wing surface. HB252, LSP_Kevin, R Palimaka and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elger Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 I'm more of a lurker on this forum but I just wanted to give you a little heads up: I finished this kit about a month or two ago and the gear legs are just barely strong enough to support the finished model - they're flimsy at best. I really recommend reinforcing the legs somehow or maybe getting metal replacements because the finished model is quite heavy. And attaching the gear legs into their sockets was the only real problem I encountered when building the kit. (Here's my build thread over on Britmodeller: https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235111572-132-trumpeter-p-47d-as-p-47d-1-42-7924-flown-by-frank-d-gallion-lost-november-3rd-1943-decals-on/) Thunnus, Antonio Argudo, D.B. Andrus and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade rowlands Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Elger said: I'm more of a lurker on this forum but I just wanted to give you a little heads up: I finished this kit about a month or two ago and the gear legs are just barely strong enough to support the finished model - they're flimsy at best. I really recommend reinforcing the legs somehow or maybe getting metal replacements because the finished model is quite heavy. And attaching the gear legs into their sockets was the only real problem I encountered when building the kit. (Here's my build thread over on Britmodeller: https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235111572-132-trumpeter-p-47d-as-p-47d-1-42-7924-flown-by-frank-d-gallion-lost-november-3rd-1943-decals-on/) Damian of Synthetic Ordnance Works makes a set. scvrobeson, Thunnus and D.B. Andrus 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B. Andrus Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 The gear legs on the Trumpeter P-47's are a very snug fit. If one doesn't push them in with gusto the legs will flop around. Don't paint the mounting lugs or you'll have problems. I usually mention it when sending out the L/G sets, but not always. My bad. HTH, Damian Thunnus, scvrobeson and MikeMaben 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunnus Posted November 22, 2022 Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 11 hours ago, Elger said: I'm more of a lurker on this forum but I just wanted to give you a little heads up: I finished this kit about a month or two ago and the gear legs are just barely strong enough to support the finished model - they're flimsy at best. I really recommend reinforcing the legs somehow or maybe getting metal replacements because the finished model is quite heavy. And attaching the gear legs into their sockets was the only real problem I encountered when building the kit. (Here's my build thread over on Britmodeller: https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235111572-132-trumpeter-p-47d-as-p-47d-1-42-7924-flown-by-frank-d-gallion-lost-november-3rd-1943-decals-on/) Thank you Elger, for the heads up and the build log as well. Nice to add another Trumpeter Razorback build to the reference list. Interesting to see that you had some of the same ideas as I, such as using the Yahu panel, tubes to line up the wing guns and adding Anyz switches to the cockpit! Great minds must think alike! As it stands right now, I don't have any options for the gear legs. Do you recall which area of the leg was weak? The mounting pegs? If so, I could probably drill and insert a brass tube a short length from the top of the pegs down into the leg. There might also be an opportunity to use the landing gear doors to strengthen the gear legs and connection between the landing gear and wings. 9 hours ago, ade rowlands said: Damian of Synthetic Ordnance Works makes a set. 1 minute ago, D.B. Andrus said: The gear legs on the Trumpeter P-47's are a very snug fit. If one doesn't push them in with gusto the legs will flop around. Don't paint the mounting lugs or you'll have problems. I usually mention it when sending out the L/G sets, but not always. My bad. HTH, Damian I'm looking at the SOW site and it shows the Trumpeter P-47D as out of stock. I'm guessing that Damian has finished his production run of these legs. I'll have to make do with the kit parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elger Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Thunnus said: As it stands right now, I don't have any options for the gear legs. Do you recall which area of the leg was weak? The mounting pegs? If so, I could probably drill and insert a brass tube a short length from the top of the pegs down into the leg. There might also be an opportunity to use the landing gear doors to strengthen the gear legs and connection between the landing gear and wings. Well I had some trouble with the mounting pegs, in hindsight I should perhaps have used some epoxy glue when attaching the legs into their sockets; that may have avoided some trouble, but the whole leg unit feels flimsy, it feels that that the legs will bend eventually under the weight of the model with the angle of the gear. The doors provide some additional support but not much. Thunnus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Stambaugh Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 The S.O.W. struts have sold out before and have been restocked. Very highly recommended using them. BTW, excellent mod of the tailwheel stirrup! Thunnus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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