Mark_C Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 On 11/5/2022 at 1:43 PM, Tony T said: I'd buy to make a P-70 Havoc night-fighter. I'd buy it to make a Havoc Turbinlite! dutik, scvrobeson, bevelduc and 7 others 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony T Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Forgive my ignorance, but to create a Havoc night-fighter is it mostly a case of removing the warty rear turret and substituting a rear view arrangement + AI Mk.IV radar gear (similar arrangement to the turbinlight, shown above, but with centrally-located bow-and-arrow on the gun-toting nose). And also in blackboard paint. Tony brewerjerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis7423 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Guys, it's unbuildable. I found a mistake. It needs a new nose wheel... the one from the restored example they studied (meticulously, I mean, look at how gorgeous it is) isn't accurate to a wartime bird. Surely we can't build this monstrosity now (except it's so good looking)! All kidding aside, I'm sure resin wheels will be along for those that need that little extra touch of accuracy. If all I can nitpick about is a bloody nose wheel, I'm in hog heaven. This thing looks absolutely splendid. - Dennis S. Mount Juliet, TN USA monthebiff, D.B. Andrus, scvrobeson and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Griewski Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 I apologize if this is posted elsewhere: https://www.themodellingnews.com/2022/11/hong-kong-models-let-havok-fly-in-132.html?m=1#more Gazzas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Griewski Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 I am in for one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzas Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 I have to say... that is one impressive looking MF kit. Rick Griewski, monthebiff, CRAZY IVAN5 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artful69 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 8 hours ago, Tony T said: Forgive my ignorance, but to create a Havoc night-fighter is it mostly a case of removing the warty rear turret and substituting a rear view arrangement + AI Mk.IV radar gear (similar arrangement to the turbinlight, shown above, but with centrally-located bow-and-arrow on the gun-toting nose). And also in blackboard paint. Tony I’ll need to check my references when I’m back home from work in a week or so … … but I’m fairly certain that the engine upgrades to the Wright R-2600’s that occurred fairly regularly during development would not have effected the shape of the nacelles too much - so a win there!! There were no huge external shape changes - apart from the turret as previously mentioned - although the amount, location and type of armament situated in the solid nose’s would vary depending on the variant … If you were trying to recreate an earlier Boston the glazed area at the front has a lot more framework. Personally, I can see the AM guys going nuts with the possibilities available here for resin conversion sets! In short … there’s a little bit more to just cutting the turret flange out of the fuselage … you’d need to rebuild that area and create a glazed canopy … probably re-equip the interior in that area - source the correct defensive armament and ensure your nose had the correct layout … but otherwise- yes! Rog brewerjerry, Tony T and firefly7 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis7423 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 For anyone converting theirs to an early one, I'll pay top dollar for your Martin turret. Just keep me in mind, if you would so please. - Dennis S. Mount Juliet, TN USA Tony T 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY IVAN5 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Dennis7423 said: For anyone converting theirs to an early one, I'll pay top dollar for your Martin turret. Just keep me in mind, if you would so please. - Dennis S. Mount Juliet, TN USA you and that turret ! LOL Rick Griewski 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Griewski Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 12 hours ago, Cees Broere said: Just got home and brought the complete example with me that was on the stand, courtesy of Neil. It’s a great kit with lots of detail. The stressed skin looks fantastic. Cheers Cees Waay cool So are you going to write up a review? We want all the details, warts and flowers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY IVAN5 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 23 minutes ago, Rick Griewski said: Waay cool So are you going to write up a review? We want all the details, warts and flowers Now that would be cool and useful. I 'd like to know where to put nose weights, doesn't seem to be a lot of options the way the kit is laid out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis7423 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 1 hour ago, CRAZY IVAN5 said: you and that turret ! LOL Can't give up. That's how the terrorists win. - Dennis S. Mount Juliet, TN USA CRAZY IVAN5 and Granger Davis 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spreckair Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 On 11/12/2022 at 7:47 AM, Dave Williams said: I think the upper fuselage insert in the turret area will be the key for determining if they plan to do earlier versions. According to Wikipedia, the fuselage of the A-20G was 6 inches wider than previous versions to accommodate the turret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Williams Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 26 minutes ago, spreckair said: According to Wikipedia, the fuselage of the A-20G was 6 inches wider than previous versions to accommodate the turret. The upper fuselage was only bulged outward in the area of the turret. The fuselage wasn’t 6 inches wider over the entire length. They could do a mold insert in that area of the fuselage for versions with the greenhouse rear gunners position. scvrobeson, brewerjerry and Rockie Yarwood 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewerjerry Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 10 minutes ago, Dave Williams said: The upper fuselage was only bulged outward in the area of the turret. The fuselage wasn’t 6 inches wider over the entire length. They could do a mold insert in that area of the fuselage for versions with the greenhouse rear gunners position. Hi the AJ Bentley plans show the extra width was only around the turret area the plans show the engine nacelles are similar in shape and length below the wing to a III I reckon conversion is possible to an boston III/ IIIa etc or Havoc II, with a bit of work maybe some aftermarket will save me some work but the small tail early boston/havoc would definitely be a challenge cheers jerry Artful69, Kagemusha, scvrobeson and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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