1/32 Douglas TBD-1 Devastator by Trumpeter - TBD-1A in October 2023!

[DrDave]

Good excuse to watch Errol Flynn in Dive Bomber in Glorious Technicolor.

[CRAZY IVAN5]

2 hours ago, LSP_K2 said:

 

I've yet to check my one single best reference on the Devastator (the Schiffer volume), but found this photo in this Osprey book. To me, this looks very much like what this kit provides, with either a curved or flat central panel (I really can't tell from this particular photo).

 

Admittedly I can't find a lot of pics [ at the angle I want] but the Trumpeter windscreen does seem to have a very slight curve to it , not flat FLAT but a very gentle curve. Some pics appear to show what looks like a one piece that goes from one diagonal to the other side diagonal different style? Agree the wings look to be "over folded" for want of a different term. For what it's worth the windscreen looks a lot like the old Monogram and GWH [ though they maybe both wrong] still doesn't look all that bad [to me]

[ivanmoe]

11 hours ago, Dave Williams said:

 

 

The kit appears to show a flat center panel, with the side panel being split into two parts.  One the real thing, the center part of the windscreen was curved, and the side panel was just one part, meaning only one frame line on each side, instead of two.  Also, when the wings are folded, they don’t overlap or nearly touch like is shown on the kit.

 

The top of the model's windscreen is slightly curved, so that certainly suggests that the panel of glass is slightly curved as well:

 

 

 

As for what is apparently windscreen framing in Kevin's pic, those might actually be support rods, instead.

 

In the way of "dueling images," let me offer these:

 

 

In support of Dave's proposition, above we see, or don't see, a good example for the framing offered with the Trumpeter pics.

 

Another pic of the canopy, one which likely shows some framing, but is unclear in terms of exactly where it's located or how wide it is:

 

 

And finally, there's this:

 

 

Hmm, tie goes to the ???

[Hans]

It looks like there were  two types of windscreens used on the Devastator , but we shall know more when the kit arrives in the shops, or when sprue shots are published on the net.  

[Finn]

A couple more pics:

 

 

 

Jari

[Bill M.]

Another explanation might be— 

TBD’s were delivered in two batches, separated by a significant passage of time. The original larger batch were first delivered, then some time later, 20-25 aircraft were delivered to make up for shortages. There were detail differences between the two batches. I don’t know if this includes the windscreen. I don’t have my research materials at hand to confirm one way or another.

Bill M.

[LSP_K2]

22 minutes ago, Bill M. said:

Another explanation might be— 

TBD’s were delivered in two batches, separated by a significant passage of time. The original larger batch were first delivered, then some time later, 20-25 aircraft were delivered to make up for shortages. There were detail differences between the two batches. I don’t know if this includes the windscreen. I don’t have my research materials at hand to confirm one way or another.

Bill M.

 

That seems to go hand in hand with the Osprey reference to TBD-1 early and TBD-1 late.

[Dennis7423]

Great Wall Hobby have depicted the same frames, sort of. The two inner frames are much more refined, in line with support struts rather than window frames, and are molded on the inside of the windscreen:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- Dennis S.

   Mount Juliet, TN USA

[ivanmoe]

'Nuther pic, a big one copied from a TIFF file at the Naval Heritage website:

 

 

Note the narrower width of the topmost "framing" and how dainty it appears at its top attachment-point, certainly no thicker than the aluminum framing.

 

Could that be a rubber seal?

Edited October 4, 2022 by ivanmoe

[Rick Griewski]

On 10/3/2022 at 10:21 PM, jwest21 said:

I don't know about Berlin but Munich lost bones from the Spinosaurus

Correct A true scholar.  Munich is was my bad.  Sorry

[Oldbaldguy]

4 hours ago, ivanmoe said:

'Nuther pic, a big one copied from a TIFF file at the Naval Heritage website:

 

 

Note the narrower width of the topmost "framing" and how dainty it appears at its top attachment-point, certainly no thicker than the aluminum framing.

 

Could that be a rubber seal?

Just wondering:  The  Douglas Skyraider had a multi pane windshield in which the parts were, in places,  butt-joined without a frame.  Since the TBD is a also Douglas product, perhaps this is where they pioneered the frameless, multi-pane concept out of necessity and made it work?   Seems to me there were some earlier Northrop airplanes with a similar setup and it’s well known that a bunch of Northrop guys went to work for Douglas, so……

[CRAZY IVAN5]

45 minutes ago, Oldbaldguy said:

Just wondering:  The  Douglas Skyraider had a multi pane windshield in which the parts were, in places,  butt-joined without a frame.  Since the TBD is a also Douglas product, perhaps this is where they pioneered the frameless, multi-pane concept out of necessity and made it work?   Seems to me there were some earlier Northrop airplanes with a similar setup and it’s well known that a bunch of Northrop guys went to work for Douglas, so……

That's entirely possible and thru the years different companies rendered it as "normal?" framing. So this is what we 're used to looking at it seems . Any experts out there to shine some light on things / IF this is the only gaff , I believe I can fix this [ had to deal with worse, way worse. Stay tuned folks!

[Finn]

Several TBD photos here:

 

http://tbd_devastator.tripod.com/tbd/tbd.photopage.htm

 

Jari

Edited October 5, 2022 by LSP_Kevin
Fixed broken link

[Finn]

The link doesn't want to work so you may have to copy and paste:

 

http://tbd_devastator.tripod.com/tbd/tbd.photopage.htm

 

Jari

Edited October 5, 2022 by Finn

[npb748r]

anybody know what the thingy (technical term !) is located on the right hand side of the plane just below the cockpit windscreen in some of the pictures ??