chrish Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 35 minutes ago, Out2gtcha said: It wasn't.......ten years ago when I made it! My how time flies eh? are there pictures of it here? Out2gtcha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, chrish said: My how time flies eh? are there pictures of it here? Yep! "Almost out of Box" GB: https://www.largescaleplanes.com/articles/article.php?aid=1188 phasephantomphixer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrish Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, Out2gtcha said: Yep! "Almost out of Box" GB: https://www.largescaleplanes.com/articles/article.php?aid=1188 Nice! Very well done, should do another of those group builds someday... I have that kit but cant find the energy to build it. I was going to try a DHC-2T conversion (did one on the 1/48 Hobbycraft kit many many years ago (pictures on "Aircraft Resource Center") RadBaron and Out2gtcha 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_C Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, scvrobeson said: Reminder that Z-M is part of a massive business empire that has the cash flow to go for high-end molding tech for niche subjects. Infinity is 100% part of a similar empire as Volks. Matt Well, as a reminder, Lukgraph, to the best of my knowledge, is a small shop. However, their kits appear to be outstanding quality with none of the issues that seem to dog HpH and Infinity. I followed a couple of WIP threads regarding the Helldiver, and let's say that (a) the builders in question are very, very good, and (b) one of them said he would never touch another Infinity kit again, this one was so bad. Woefully inaccurate interior, poor parts fit, soft detail, and so on. Edited September 2, 2022 by Mark_C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scvrobeson Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Lukgraph is also using CAD and 3D printing. As far as I know, HpH is still relying on old-school handmade masters. Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted September 3, 2022 Author Share Posted September 3, 2022 Thanks Gents! They are making a 1/32 Nakajima B5N2 and an Aichi Val 99! Royboy and Bill M. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 On 9/3/2022 at 3:12 AM, scvrobeson said: Lukgraph is also using CAD and 3D printing. As far as I know, HpH is still relying on old-school handmade masters. Matt Indeed but in the Vampire CAD is used for the small parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_C Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 4 hours ago, thierry laurent said: Indeed but in the Vampire CAD is used for the small parts. And according to their FB page, Lukgraph's early yellow wing kits were mastered by hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madelf75 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 The surface detail on the Helldiver kit is really awesome but some of the interior detail is kind of soft but this comes with the nature of a short run kit .I do plan on building one here soon I'll be doing some 3D printing most of the interior and engine cowling because I feel this is where most the attention is needed . Over all other than the I love the kit . scvrobeson and thierry laurent 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scvrobeson Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 6 hours ago, Mark_C said: And according to their FB page, Lukgraph's early yellow wing kits were mastered by hand. And it showed. I have a couple of them, and they're really rough compared to what they're doing now. Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scvrobeson Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 10 hours ago, thierry laurent said: Indeed but in the Vampire CAD is used for the small parts. And those bits have been praised for their sharp molding and detail Matt thierry laurent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_C Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 1 hour ago, scvrobeson said: And it showed. I have a couple of them, and they're really rough compared to what they're doing now. Matt Perhaps HpH/Infinity can follow Lukgraph's example and do entire kits this way. I sure hope so. I'd like to see them do their 32nd scale MiG-15. scvrobeson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeroen_R90S Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 On 9/2/2022 at 5:27 PM, quang said: I don’t know much about the Helldiver but I know it would be very hard to improve on the ZM Skyraider, something which cannot be said about many existing kits except perhaps some of the new-gen Tamiya. It'd better be, as I sold some pretty rare 1/72 kits to finally buy one! It also does not come with weapons you need to get an extra set(s) for and you can buy lots of other extra's from ZM -though unlike Infinity they are improvements over the plastic intead of additions, except for the weapons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quang Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, jeroen_R90S said: It also does not come with weapons you need to get an extra set(s) for There is an updated boxing with all weapons included. It generally costs the same as the original issue. As for the extra photo-etchings, they’re cheaper if you buy direct from Eduard. Edited September 5, 2022 by quang jeroen_R90S 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Another thing to consider: I know how is the Helldiver (I have 2 kits including one with all the sets) BUT the Vampire kit does not really need the additional sets. A2G weapons were rarely used and the flaps were not always opened. The plastic wheels are OK as such and if cautiously assembled do not need replacement to my eyes. It is the same for the plastic cockpit parts. So the additional photoetched set is just an option. The weight is neither an absolutely required aftermarket item as it is quite easy to do it oneself with epoxy and fishing leads and most kits do not include them. So, there is a clear evolution between their first and second plastic kits. The learning curve still need positive progresses but to me they are going in the right direction. For sure, they are still behind the quality of most Asian producers but it is a hard fact most Asian models kits companies have a very limited interest in going on releasing large scale plane models and this is going close to zero when we consider less-known topics. Fanes and jeroen_R90S 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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