Nighthawk Calling 1 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 So with the Bearcat finished what next, I decided to carry on with the Trumpeter theme, I know the issues with the kit, and also the fact that the light on the top of the fin need sorting as well as landing lights on the wings. So I will be looking for images of the landing lights to see what is needed. I'm not the best at painting cockpits so will be using the Quinta Studio set this will be a first for me. I will also being adding wheels and new propeller. Paint mostly will be MRP. Any and all advice welcome. themongoose, Alex, LSP_Kevin and 13 others 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldbaldguy Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 If you are building an Air Force Spad, be sure to carefully check your references. In most cases, the USAF used different wheels on their Skyraiders than the Navy did, so you might want to check to be sure you have the right ones. I assume you are talking about adding the USAF landing/taxi lights under the wing tips. Might want to dig around on the site here to see what you can find because I’m pretty sure someone else already has done this, so you might can save yourself some time and effort. Looking forward to see how you paint and weather yours! Nighthawk Calling 1 and KiwiZac 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmerit Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Stick with the kit cockpit. The Aires one is a nightmare to fit and the kit cockpit is good enough - I build two Korean with kit cockpit and a Nam navy Skyraider with the Aires cockpit, so I speak from the joyous experience of getting the fuselage to joint on the Nam Spad. It was a proper mare. quang and Nighthawk Calling 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 One of my favorite aircraft. I still have a pipe dream that I’ll find one of those Fisher A-1E conversions out there. Good luck on your build, I’ll be following closely. Nighthawk Calling 1 and scvrobeson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldbaldguy Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 2 hours ago, John1 said: One of my favorite aircraft. I still have a pipe dream that I’ll find one of those Fisher A-1E conversions out there. Good luck on your build, I’ll be following closely. Oh, the Fisher A-1Es are out there. The question is: What’s in your wallet? KiwiZac and Nighthawk Calling 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1 Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Oldbaldguy said: Oh, the Fisher A-1Es are out there. The question is: What’s in your wallet? Lol, it’s not a question of what’s in my wallet, it’s more a question of explaining to the Minister of Finance why I spent that much for a “plastic toy”. daveculp, Nighthawk Calling 1, Oldbaldguy and 4 others 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Colvin Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 DBL check the wingtips.....some USAF A-1s did not have the wing tip lights. Rob Nighthawk Calling 1, KiwiZac and Oldbaldguy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juggernut Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Boy, I wish Quinta Studio's would release a cockpit set for the ZM A-1J Skyraider... They have one in 1/48. No, it's not the same as the H :). Nighthawk Calling 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quang Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 First thing to check is the Yankee extractor seat. It’s the big difference. Otherwise the USAF cockpit is mostly the same as the Navy version. The Aires resin cockpit is a waste of money. Contrary to what can be read on the internet, it adds nothing to the stock cockpit. The Eduard is a much better deal. Don’t ask me how I know. I’ve built both the Trumpy and the ZM. If you have questions, don’t hesitate. Cheers, Quang left: Trumpy right: ZM ‘ easixpedro, HB252, themongoose and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collin Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 16 hours ago, quang said: First thing to check is the Yankee extractor seat. It’s the big difference. Otherwise the USAF cockpit is mostly the same as the Navy version. The Aires resin cockpit is a waste of money. Contrary to what can be read on the internet, it adds nothing to the stock cockpit. The Eduard is a much better deal. Don’t ask me how I know. I’ve built both the Trumpy and the ZM. If you have questions, don’t hesitate. Cheers, Quang left: Trumpy right: ZM ‘ Is it my eyes...or is the Trumpy a little "fat"? Or is the ZM a little "skinny"? Cheers Collin scvrobeson and Nighthawk Calling 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quang Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 32 minutes ago, Collin said: Is it my eyes...or is the Trumpy a little "fat"? Or is the ZM a little "skinny"? Cheers Collin Yes indeed. On the real-life Skyraider, the rear part of the fuselage aft the cockpit is slab-sided. Furthermore there’s a pronounced ridge on the spine. The Trumpy looks more like a P-47. The SPAD is by no means a stubby aircraft. I tried to correct it by shaving off a good part of the plastic but it’s still too fat. What you see in the photo is the modified Trumpy compared with the stock ZM. It was the main reason I stopped building the Trumpeter and switched to ZM. The ZM has good contours and possesses a real Skyraider vibe but is a dog to build. The over-engineering took much of the fun away. Should the ‘old man’ offer a simplified version of the kit at a cheaper price, he would sell tons and tons! Cheers, Quang LSP_Kevin, daveculp, Nighthawk Calling 1 and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scvrobeson Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Looks like the Trumpeter kit is afflicted with the same chubbiness that hit the Hellcat kit. The Z-M one does look a lot more prototypical. I'm sure that Nighthawk will produce a wonderful build though on the Trumpeter kit. A SPAD is always a good looking plane. Matt Nighthawk Calling 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quang Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Don’t get me wrong: despite the slight chubbiness (which only the more enthusiastic die-hard Spad fans would notice) the Trumpeter is a fine and pleasurable kit and would make a worthy replica as you can see many on this forum. IMO the only AM that would make it even better are a new propeller (the most noticeable improvement), a good cockpit add-ons (Eduard or Quinta,…) and a new set of resin wheels (if using vinyl bothers you). Happy modelling scvrobeson, John1 and Nighthawk Calling 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nighthawk Calling 1 Posted June 18, 2022 Author Share Posted June 18, 2022 Morning All, Thanks for all the input so far, so the Trumpy kit is a bit like me a bit round and over weight, that's life. I'm thinking that she may end up looking like this one (see below). Looking for more info on her so will see if there is a page on the web an have a nose around.Also need to see about Yankee Extraction seat and landing lights. Question, in the kit there are parts to make a second seat would this be the Yankee one if a bit crud, some tarting up and it could be passable. The glue is out, undercarriage bay walls have been glued to the lower wing engine has been started as well as the cockpit cleaning up to allow for the Quinta Studio set. I'll try to post some photos later this weekend, the image is one of the options in the Italeri kits, Stay safe and happy modeling/ Stuart themongoose, MikeMaben, Alex and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldbaldguy Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Nighthawk Calling 1 said: Morning All, Thanks for all the input so far, so the Trumpy kit is a bit like me a bit round and over weight, that's life. I'm thinking that she may end up looking like this one (see below). Looking for more info on her so will see if there is a page on the web an have a nose around.Also need to see about Yankee Extraction seat and landing lights. Question, in the kit there are parts to make a second seat would this be the Yankee one if a bit crud, some tarting up and it could be passable. The glue is out, undercarriage bay walls have been glued to the lower wing engine has been started as well as the cockpit cleaning up to allow for the Quinta Studio set. I'll try to post some photos later this weekend, the image is one of the options in the Italeri kits, Stay safe and happy modeling/ Stuart You get it that this spiffy paint job is an homage to pilots calling Skyraiders “Spads”, right? Sort of an updated version of how Spad tails were painted during the war. Nighthawk Calling 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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