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Saw it tonight (EU time) together with my son, enjoyed it very much, had some impressive sound/vibration experiences (and it wasn't even 4D), and in the end some really good laughs on the Sukhoi-Tomcat dog fight.

Especially the "link" we had with a scene from "Hotshots" were the bandit pilots used calls like "shiskebab, shiskebab" and the pilot figure in Maverick looked very much the same as in that parody.....

But is was great to see this movie, must have been costly to have real Hornets participate in it, but then again great PR for the navy :punk:

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On 5/29/2022 at 3:53 AM, Eagle Driver said:

Awful, awful movie.

Not actual spoilers below. Well, MAYBE if you overthink what I am about to write. Small text is what you might not want to read.

Ward Carroll YouTube actually depicts a lot more. I would assume that you already watched it. As well as the commercials. They say most of it if you look closely.

 

Now, I was in SD for the premiere and have a video on how almighty Tom lands on the carrier and slides off of the back seat of the helicopter. Also I watched the movie last week. Money wasted. Got a poster and a pin. Gee.


So, before I start, TAKE A LOOK /and a good one PLEASE/ at the commercials seen on YouTube.

The one and only jet pilot Tom Cruise using BOTH hands putting his mask on, while the Super Hornet seemingly driven by AI roll itself leveling its wings.

That should be enough. If you want more, read below. If you want to keep everything a big surprise, STOP HERE. Anyhow, what I am about to write is already on the web for couple of days. This is the harsh reality:

 

Cobras in Super Hornet, WTF? But we already knew that's coming.

 

A 2nd gen. fighter pilot, son of a fighter pilot killed in Tomcat comments on why Tomcat's wings are moving!?!!? WTF?? Insulting.

 

Columbia Shuttle destruction practically seen in an aircraft /and survived by its pilot/. What? Really? Insulting, especially to the victims.

Ridiculous advertisement from Lockheed Martin by the way. You'll see.

 

A misfit who almost nobody can stand besides Iceman stole a jet to show off and got away with it? Really? We all know Maverick is the worst pilot possible with that attitude from 1986 right? A pilot WOULD never act like he did in 1986 by the way. 

 

Bird strike killing an engine led to a crash, really? What about passenger planes? Do they fell of the sky like that too? Would that scene create some afterthoughts? No redundancy on the Super Hornet is what they are suggesting maybe?

 

Double Gun Mi-24 in CGI? Double???!!! Heh. Good one. Especially considering two perfectly good and flyable Mi-24Ds in Texas. No, no, this movie was done for IMAX, everything is real because Cruise says so. NO CGI, no fantasies. "There was no other way" he said. 

 

Roll rate of Super Hornet exaggerated. Expected. Same as in M:I famous helicopter scene.

 

33.3% higher G load on a Super Hornet /limit is 7.5/ survived by the plane seemingly without a problem. Oooweee! 

 

Many /probably most/ of the scenes are still shot using green screen. Expected. Watch carefully when you visit the theater. 

 

F/A-18 displayed on the ridiculous demo of the mission as an F-18? F, really? For a ground attack mission?

 

Callsigns seen on radar picture? Reaaaly?

 

Sailing scene? REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALY?!???!?

 

I won't even start on admiral Kazansky.

For that I can say only one thing: F#ck whoever wrote this movie. F%ck Tom Cruise for letting this slide.

That was VERY insulting on EVERY possible level.

 

This was a joke. Mix of Iron Eagle II /remember there Operation Opera was hinted/ depicted in modern times with Super Hornets, with some mix from first Iron Eagle when the kid got his father on the runway and took off. Same basic ideas. 2022 realization. I rather watch Iron Eagle I and II. Some child memories at least. Doug Masters landing his Israeli F-16 to pick his father from the runway. Oh wait, it was an US F-16, but USAF refused to embarrass themselves and never gave the production its jets.

 

They ruined EVERYTHING. Moslty Cruise with his mentor complex and his stupid jokes. That was mission impossible in a jet fighter. Every single bullshi7 in MI can be seen again and again in TG Maverick.

Tony Scott absence was felt most of everything. Ridley should've taken over.

The film was shot in rushed sequence, disrupted scenes, slightly mixed story. Bad directing. I can go a lot deeper on that, but in short: expect the same movie as the first one, only worse. Sequences are identical. If you don't get it the first couple days, it will sink in time, trust me.


Complete disaster. 
Not if you enjoy M:I movies though. For me, after MI: 2, all else is bull$hit. But if you like those, you'll like this flop too.

 

Expect Director's cut, since some of the scenes seen on the YT commercials were missing.

 

P.S. Oh yes, Radios of F-14 are not working, greased young pilot doesn't know how to work them. Then the other greased young man appears seemingly OUT OF NOWHERE and then.... both planes are on the same frequency speeking shi7 to each other.

 

Cruise said that this was hitting a bullet with a bullet. Now I know for sure why they made American Psycho after him.

Please tune to 121.5. Suicide hotline.

 

Ok....you made your statement, and like it's been said over and over again:  IT'S A MOVIE, NOT A DOCUMENTARY............

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Does anyone know the squadron markings on the Super Hornets used on the actual mission?  I know some of the carrier scenes were filmed on the USS Abraham Lincoln, but don’t know if the aircraft used any of the resident squadron markings for the in flight scenes.  TIA.

 

ETA, I was able to do a freeze frame from the trailer showing one of the mission aircraft pulling up sharply, and don’t see any markings at all.  Assuming it’s real, they may have digitally erased the squadron markings.

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On 6/13/2022 at 6:20 AM, Jack said:

 must have been costly to have real Hornets participate in it, but then again great PR for the navy :punk:

yup. Saw figures of $11,000/hr for the Hornets.

Movie had made 883 million at Box office alone in 2weeks.  They reckon it might make a billion USD.  More if you factor in merch and release to streaming services.  Spend money to make money but I think you're right. It'll inspire a lot of young people towards aviation, even if a lot of it was fantasy.

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Finally saw it, loved it, great movie. This is the best you could ever expect out of Hollywood. 

 

I just don't understand complaining about a movie not being realistic, even the most realistic productions are filled with flaws these types always cry about! From patches and not going up the cliff in Saving Private Ryan, even Band of Brothers got things wrong. Be happy this movie was not another pile of crap like Fury. 

 

Anyway, as a big fan of the first movie, I have to say, the day you can buy it on any streaming service, I will buy it.  Hell, it even had Tom Cruise's Personal P-51 Mustang in it!  5/5 Stars, no reasonable person can expect anything better from Hollywood. 

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