themongoose Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Hey LSP, this build is for a fellow modeler, great guy, and Vet! He had cool build all worked up, a Turkish F-4E Phantom in the Kara Sahin, Black Falcon, markings. Unfortunately he left us before he got to finish it. For that reason I hope you’ll excuse my rather long intro. Jason had a set of decals for the scheme but the largest they came in was 1/48th. Enter LSP. He put the word out he wanted to try masks and do some painting of the falcon. We ended up getting together on the project and chatting a bunch over the following year. He had the Revell F-4E Phantom to use. After I drafted everything up he sent my the left half of the plane lol and I used it to finish up the final layout and sizing of the masks. Wrote him up a set of instructions on how to place them and he was off. For this build I had been looking around for the Revell Phantom. I found the combo kit, Phantom and Mig The box was a mess, and in the end I had to throw it away due to the musty, moldy, smell it had! Supposedly all the pieces were there…if you counted the weapons and fuel tank sprues as separate haha. Also found the canopy was broken. It split about an 1/8” from the bottom edge and I hadn’t noticed it till I got everything out to start it. Well that slowed things down. I held off on posting a wip till I found all the parts I was going to need. So I’ll kick the build off in the next post. I’ve got a mix of things done based on what I had to work with. Here’s to Jason (USMC Herc) wherever you are I hope you know this finally came together for you. Kagemusha, easixpedro, Lenny320 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Kevin Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Nice tribute project! I had no idea that dual kit existed! Can you tell me more about it (kit number, release year, etc)? Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Are you sure this is the same Revell F-4E kit as there were two clearly distinct generations of kits with some shape differences ? I'm asking as the Phantom/MiG combo box has the old mold kit that nearly disappeared from the scene for at least twenty years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Williams Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 The F-4E/Mig-21 combo kit is very much the old tool kit from the 70’s, and completely different from the 90’s new tool Revell F-4E. https://www.scalemates.com/kits/revell-4747-f-4e-phantom-ii-and-mig-21--1051124 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themongoose Posted May 19, 2022 Author Share Posted May 19, 2022 19 hours ago, LSP_Kevin said: Nice tribute project! I had no idea that dual kit existed! Can you tell me more about it (kit number, release year, etc)? Kev Hey Kev! Yep the one I have is old - 1983 is the year for my box. It’s #4747. It’s different from the 1976 boxing in 1 major way. The folding wing tips on the ‘76 version have mounting points for slats. The ‘83 boxing i started with, the combo kit, has clean folding wing tips although the slats are in the box. Here’s the ‘76 A big thanks to one of the guys from the Wright Field Scale Modelers who donated this kit to me so I would have everything needed to finish this build. Decals are good, all the stores will fill out my Turkish Phantom and best of all the canopies are perfect! Greg W, GreyGhost and LSP_Kevin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themongoose Posted May 19, 2022 Author Share Posted May 19, 2022 6 hours ago, thierry laurent said: Are you sure this is the same Revell F-4E kit as there were two clearly distinct generations of kits with some shape differences ? I'm asking as the Phantom/MiG combo box has the old mold kit that nearly disappeared from the scene for at least twenty years! Thierry you are so right. This combo kit is seldom seen. I bought it at the Regional Show here in Ohio. Normally going for $150 the vendor gave me a steal on it as long as I sent her pics of the commemorative build once I finished. I tried the canopies from the new mold version and they don’t even look right open. You can just tell the lines are different, you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themongoose Posted May 19, 2022 Author Share Posted May 19, 2022 Ok gang here’s where I’m at with the build. Jason liked to build out of the box so I’m going to keep that intent here with this Phantom. IPMS has a new basic kit build category. My intent will be to keep to that theme and build it good enough to compete. Omaha is drivable for me this year so if I can finish this without rushing it I’ll bring it along! let me tell you this will be a challenge. Check out this shot, you can tell these molds were shot shot shot it’s clamp heaven for every assembly Another challenge I’m imposing is the build the kit just like Revell wanted us kids at the time to build it. So you’ll see the engine assembled and with some glazing putty on it, the wings fold (this is a story unto itself, probably 1hr each with a file deepening the winglet joint so it would work). No kid could ever do it. You’d have to pick a position. i broke each of the pivot arms once but cement seems to make it stronger then before. ok, you’re all caught up! Lots of sanding and finish work to do of course. Later this weekend I’ll get back to the cockpit now that I have all the parts. daveculp, Landrotten Highlander, Rockie Yarwood and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themongoose Posted May 20, 2022 Author Share Posted May 20, 2022 Working some of the individual parts today. Taking the revell text off destroyed a few panel lines and “some” sanding took out a few more. Put them back on with CA. next up the center seam while i was at it. Needs sanded and cleaned up from here and while not worth a pic it’s interesting to note how much scuffing happens to the fuselage over 40 years in the box. I probably sanded half of the fuse with 1500 grit paper to clean it up. Both models showed all the same type scratching. Definitely required motivation… working on cleaning up the jet engine and painting the cockpit. Hope to work those around high school graduation this weekend! LSP_Kevin, GreyGhost, blackbetty and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaos07 Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Great idea! I had that kit a long time ago when in High School. I never managed to build it, and it succumbed to one of the many moves I had around the plant. I look forward to seeing this come together! Cheers themongoose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyGhost Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 A very worthy and classy tribute build ..! -Gregg themongoose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themongoose Posted May 22, 2022 Author Share Posted May 22, 2022 Many thx gentlemen! working on the cockpit yesterday and today amongst misc other sanding tasks. Just about ready to close up the fuselage. i used bondic drops to create the glass. I think the big one over the radar scope needs a touchup tho under magnification. All original, just like Revell wanted it. Let me know what you think about the paint. I don’t want it to dirty for sure, just wondering if maybe a glaze or a couple coats of glaze might blend things together more. It’s pretty barren like this but if I’m to keep to this basic kit build mentality I must fight the inner demons calling for extras, know what i mean! Let me know what you think? daveculp, Greg W and Landrotten Highlander 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themongoose Posted May 22, 2022 Author Share Posted May 22, 2022 My other big task is canopy cleanup. Both kits have scratched clear parts so doesn’t matter which i use. I’ve been using the Novus polish for some time now but haven’t been happy with the results. Called my buddy who loves it and asked how he does it. Turns out the difference is I was using microfiber towels and he is using cotton t-shirts. I switched and no more fine little hazy scratches left after polishing. both of the above were polished with Novus and microfiber towels. The scratches obviously needed sandpaper. Was hoping not to but oh well. I started with 6k but went backward to 4k to get then out. Then moved from 4k to 6k to 8k to 12k. Followed by Novus 3, 2, 1 and here’s the final look Anthony in NZ, Landrotten Highlander, LSP_Kevin and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themongoose Posted July 7, 2022 Author Share Posted July 7, 2022 Back on track! Embarrassingly I placed the front cockpit decals wrong. A terribly bad thing to do on an ancient kit. Jack came to my rescue with a set of originals that spent 2 months on a slow boat from Europe lol Upon arriving I got right to work. Unfortunately these dang things are just so old that nothing would keep them together. Stopped in at the LSH while on a trip back home this weekend and the owner went down to the basement and searched through his misc stuff from estate sales and such. He found me a set of 3d decals and we took some high def pics of them. I then printed them out on the color laser printer to revive this build. Decals, amd only 2d decals, are allowed in the Basic Kit Build rules so I am good to go. Not sure I can finish by NATS but I’ll give it a try. Here’s what she looks like, just the way Revell designed her, big gaps, holes, and all Landrotten Highlander, blackbetty, Greg W and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockie Yarwood Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Loving it! I built a couple of those first generation Revell Phantoms as a teen, you have brought back great memories for me... themongoose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbetty Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 cool build, reminds me of my first WIP on here: https://forum.largescaleplanes.com/index.php?/topic/13093-f4j-in-cunningham-markings-finished/ themongoose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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