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Hi Guys and Gals and others,

what paints are people (are we people in this new woke world) using for Olive Drab on their Vietnam Cobras please?

 

Cheers,

Peter

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That's a tough question.   I'd almost say find a color picture of your subject and eyeball it with a custom mix.   OD faded quite quickly, at other times replacement parts were added in a different shade and later in the war, the US started using a darker green shade of OD.    For fresh OD, I go with Modelmaster Olive Drab (if you can find it any more). 

 

Good luck. 

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6 hours ago, John1 said:

That's a tough question.   I'd almost say find a color picture of your subject and eyeball it with a custom mix.   OD faded quite quickly, at other times replacement parts were added in a different shade and later in the war, the US started using a darker green shade of OD.    For fresh OD, I go with Modelmaster Olive Drab (if you can find it any more). 

 

Good luck. 

Thanks John,

we are thinking along the same lines.

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Life colour do a great range of olive drabs, this is one of their kits https://www.bnamodelworld.com.au/lifecolor-lc-cs11-acrylic-paint-set-us-olive-drab-camouflage-22ml-x-6 that I’ve used to colour match. Their UA 223 and 224 faded olive drabs are great colours too, but again  I only use them on test cards and then mix another brand to match - I’ve never had great luck getting life colour to stick.

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On 2/19/2022 at 2:57 PM, John1 said:

I'd almost say find a color picture of your subject and eyeball it with a custom mix.

I'm sorry to rain on peoples' parades, but contemporary photos of 'Nam Cobras are NOT reliable reference-sources. What with over / under-exposure of film, fading due to poor negative storage-conditions, the obvious colour casts created by 1960's emulsions, etc, etc, I would recommend you use contemporary images as a starting point only. Having said that, you have to trust something, at some point, I guess....

 

Chris. 

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Thanks very much for the advice folks. It sounds like we are all having the same issues and it will boil down to what we think looks good. 

 

I'll let you know what I come up with.

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Found here:

https://olive-drab.com/od_mvg_odpaint.php

 

Sincerely,

Mark

 

Date Shade Authority/Reference
1940 Lustreless Olive Drab Enamel
QM Color No. 22
Corps of Engineers Color No. 9
Quartermaster Specification ES-474 (or ES-474-B) painting standards
Quartermaster Specification 3-1 Color Card Suppplement
Corps of Engineers 1942 Color Card
Pittsburgh Plate Glass Contract No. 398-QM-8694 (No. 1135) (and other manufacturers following)
Fed. Stock No. 51-E-4171-15 (one gallon) or 51-E-4172 (five gallons)
1943 Lustreless Olive Drab Specification 3-1F Color Card Suppplement (Revision 1)
Corps of Engineers 1942 Color Card
1943 A/N 319 Olive Drab
Lustreless, very similar to QM Color No. 22 but different chemical composition. Not commonly used for vehicles.
Army Resources and Production Division
Joint Army-Navy color specification A/N 319
1944 A/N 319 Olive Drab
Improved moisture seal, slight gloss
See Doyle, Appendix 2
1945 Olive Drab, Semigloss Army Regulation 850-15 1 Aug 1945
Specification 3-181, Amendment 3, Type V
Fed. Stock No. 52-E-7574 (one gallon)
1950 OD 3412 (flat) and OD 2430 (semigloss)
Color equivalent to Lustreless Olive Drab
TT-C-595 Colors for Ready Mixed Paint
1956 OD 34087 (equivalent to OD 3412)
OD 24087 (equivalent to OD 2430)
OD 14087 (gloss)
34087 is not the same color as 14087/24087 an error that persisted until FS595A Change 7 in 1984
Federal Standard FS595
1960 OD X34087
OD X24087
OD X14087
Lighter and yellower than previous paints with same number. X indicates interim.
Federal Standard FS595 Addendum 2
Issued by US Army Signal Equipment Support Agency
1968 OD 34087 (same as X34087)
OD 24087 (same as X24087)
OD 14087 (same as X14087)
Colors not the same as FS595 same numbers
Federal Standard FS595A as revised by Change 3, 28 April 72
1984 OD 34087/24087/14087 deleted
OD 34084/24084/14084 same color as 14087 from FS595
OD 34088/24088/14088 same color as 34087 from FS595
OD 33070 (equivalent to A/N 319 Lustreless OD
OD 33070 is similar color in camouflage section
Federal Standard FS595A Change 7
19899 Only significant change was 24087 which has been reassigned to an unrelated color

Federal Standard FS595

 

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