easixpedro Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 3 hours ago, John1 said: Courtesy of Jari's link above. Great shot of an early F-4C. From what I've been able to find, it appears that by '67-68 that under-nose fiberglass panel was painted over. One other cool thing about this picture is that it clearly shows the painted over large-sized underwing national insignia just visible under a coating of white paint. The picture also shows nice examples of sloppily painted underwing drop tanks. Thanks so much for all the great pictures Jari, they are greatly appreciated. And note the star is facing the wrong direction… (the horror)! John1, daveculp, TAG and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy! Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Honorable mention model right there! GreyGhost and Model_Monkey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Here is another pic: Jari GreyGhost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1 Posted June 18, 2022 Author Share Posted June 18, 2022 So about those wingtips. Nick / Cheeta11 raised an interesting point about the nav lights being smoothly faired in to the contour of the wingtips, as opposed to the protruding "bulb" that the kit has. The drawings that Finn posted above seemed to back him up. However - I've been trying to find pictures of early F-4C's with this "smooth" wingtip. So far, I've only found shots that show the kit-style wingtips. From a picture Finn posted above, if you zoom in to it's fullest extent, you can see that the wingtip is the kit version with the protruding nav light. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Cam_Ranh_Air_Base#/media/File:McDonnell_F-4C_Phantom_II_of_the_557th_TFS_at_Cam_Ranh_Air_Base,_Vietnam,_in_1969_(176246640).jpg Then I thought that maybe the smooth wingtip was present on earlier jets and modified later. However, I found this picture, amongst others. Early war C's and you can clearly see the bulb type wing-tip light on the closest jet (it helps to enlarge the picture but trust me, it's there). I guess based on all this, I'll stick with the kit wingtip. Behing inherently lazy, that's totally ok by me. If anyone has info they can add to this subject, feel free to chime in . Brett M and GreyGhost 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 (edited) A couple more early F-4Cs showing the wingtip bulb: edit: while drawings from manuals show flush wingtip lights: Jari Edited June 18, 2022 by Finn GreyGhost, John1 and Paul in Napier 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 On 6/14/2022 at 2:26 PM, easixpedro said: Somewhere I've got a circa late 67 photo of an F-4B launching off the Kitty Hawk with a bunch of CBUs on the outboard MERs. Looks like they're dragging on the deck during the stroke. I agree it's crazy how low they hung. (isn't that a NSFW ditty?) Gotta love this forum! Timmy's subsequent post is equally fantastic... Excuse the interruption John, I know how distracting it can be when Nick points out detail stuff. John1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1 Posted June 19, 2022 Author Share Posted June 19, 2022 6 hours ago, Madmax said: Gotta love this forum! Timmy's subsequent post is equally fantastic... Excuse the interruption John, I know how distracting it can be when Nick points out detail stuff. Are you kidding, I love nerding out on stuff like this. Feel free to "dirt road" this build log all you want!! Uncarina and Madmax 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1 Posted June 22, 2022 Author Share Posted June 22, 2022 One thing the F-4 was noted for was the absolutely filthy undersides. I started weathering this area previously but had to wait until I had all 200 or so decals in place before I could continue. Decals are now in place, so I went back to work with a few shades of Flory Washes, some AK Used Oil and good old thinned black enamel. Here's a good example of the real deal (although if I tried hard, I could find others that were even dirtier): Here is where I'm currently at. Pre-weathering picture of the outer wing. Got a bit of overspray to deal with on the leading edge areas but I'm pretty content with the way things turned out. That's it for now, thanks for checking in lads! Cheetah11, GMK, Fanes and 25 others 28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geedubelyer Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 That's looking superb so far. Great adherence to real details creates reality in miniature. Please pass your message on. Uncarina 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easixpedro Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Looking good! I'd use some brown too--between the J79s throwing oil and hyd leaks, there would be a lot of it. Looking forward to more! -Peter Alex and John1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncarina Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Go John Go! You’re nailing this. Cheers, Tom GreyGhost and John1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Not as dirty but a few smudges here and there: Jari John1, GreyGhost and Rockie Yarwood 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Filthy good weathering! 305 swag and John1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaeone57 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Gorgeous work going on here! Phantabulous Phantom! Alfonso John1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
305 swag Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 Love the weathering! John1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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