LSP_Kevin Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Looking good, Gaz! I'd definitely be looking to shim those gaps with styrene strip. Even if you have to then rescribe the panel lines, it won't be difficult to do. Kev Gazzas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzas Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, LSP_Kevin said: Looking good, Gaz! I'd definitely be looking to shim those gaps with styrene strip. Even if you have to then rescribe the panel lines, it won't be difficult to do. Kev Thank you, Kev! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennismcc Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Those bumps look really good, lots of patience required, though in real life they may not have been such a good fit. For gaps in wing roots I always use plastic card and CA, then I rescribe any panel lines just a slight distance from the join as below. To match the panel line I use a curved PE piece to match the join and then cut it out in Dymo tape and use it as a guide. Cheers Dennis 109, adameliclem, Greg W and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzas Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 28 minutes ago, dennismcc said: Those bumps look really good, lots of patience required, though in real life they may not have been such a good fit. For gaps in wing roots I always use plastic card and CA, then I rescribe any panel lines just a slight distance from the join as below. To match the panel line I use a curved PE piece to match the join and then cut it out in Dymo tape and use it as a guide. Cheers Dennis Thank you Dennis! Nice looking pieces of photo etch. Thanks for that tip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Buddee Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Beautiful work on blending the bulges on the cowling and wings. It doesn’t look as if you could have gotten it any better, as to me, it looks perfect. Cheers, Wolf Gazzas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzas Posted July 22, 2021 Author Share Posted July 22, 2021 13 hours ago, Wolf Buddee said: Beautiful work on blending the bulges on the cowling and wings. It doesn’t look as if you could have gotten it any better, as to me, it looks perfect. Cheers, Wolf Thank you. Wolf! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMaben Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 On 7/20/2021 at 11:28 PM, Gazzas said: So, I will have to fill all flour gaps. ...sooo... what are you baking here Gary ? Dpgsbody55 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzas Posted July 22, 2021 Author Share Posted July 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, MikeMaben said: ...sooo... what are you baking here Gary ? Hahaha.... can't believe I missed that! MikeMaben 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Gazzas, I'd think that shimming the wing panel at the join would yield a better result. The wing root to wing interface has a couple of steps and interlocks on the inside face that you would nedd to consider. Wouldn't it be easier to rescribe there (mid panel) instead of the wing root? Good luck either way. You're rocking it so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzas Posted July 23, 2021 Author Share Posted July 23, 2021 14 hours ago, Kais said: Gazzas, I'd think that shimming the wing panel at the join would yield a better result. The wing root to wing interface has a couple of steps and interlocks on the inside face that you would nedd to consider. Wouldn't it be easier to rescribe there (mid panel) instead of the wing root? Good luck either way. You're rocking it so far. Thanks, Kais. Actually... you are correct. When I went to shim them last night, I discovered the problems you mention. One thing I want to avoid was to sand near the large screw heads inboard of both upper wings. So far, this is the only picture where I can actually see them. Nobody takes a picture of this area on any plane. But they look more flush here. Maybe I should replace them with flush screw heads made with a beading tool and a knife. Opinions?? Kais, 109 and Dpgsbody55 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzas Posted July 24, 2021 Author Share Posted July 24, 2021 Thanks to a few words from Kais, and finding that my original plan wasn't going to work, I cemented the card fillets to the bulge sections: Then I test fitted, pulled apart filed and sanded... re-test-fitted... pulled apart again... until I finally got it to the point where I reckon I can call it good. It's quite a funky wing design. The kit has some nice engineering features... that are a PITA when it comes to getting stuff right. YOu have to do everything in perfect order... you can't reverse the order of parts going together. Anyway... with that done, I considered cleaning up the parts... filling behind the card with black CA and then sanding it all smooth and continuing with assembly... but then I had a second thought... I need to prepare for the WfGr 21 rocket tubes and mountings before I get the kit too far along! I'm not one to seek perfection when I know it goes beyond my abilities and supplies. Basically what I did was use some photos of an Eduard set, and use them to help me 'engineer' the parts I came up with. So, I had to take pictures supplied by friends with the Eduard AM... resize them to meet the parts I've found and do a little math to tell me where to drill. The intersections of tape mark drilling points in the polished aluminum tube. The mounting brackets of the rockets will be .5mm rod enclosed in .7mm tube. This way I can space the parts to imitate detail. Here, the tube and .5mm rod are held in situ by blutack. I'm not sure of the angles, but I'll fiddle with it some tomorrow. I lightly sanded the tube to give the primer something to get hold of. The prospect of trying to work around these tubes is daunting as there is little, fragile detail to add to the wing, yet... and then there is all of that other assembly and weathering to complete. Thanks for looking! LSP_Kevin, Landrotten Highlander, Kais and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Well done that man! Gazzas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMaben Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 20 hours ago, Gazzas said: I'm not one to seek perfection when I know it goes beyond my abilities and supplies. Me too Gary, things I plan don't always go as planned. Gazzas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzas Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 Hi everyone, My modelling time is pretty much done for the weekend. All of spent on these rocket tubes. I have to wonder why they never used fin stabilized rail mounted missiles like everyone else. The second tube was much harder than the first. But once I had the brass rod mostly covered by brass tube, it got easier. I used a lot of eyeball gestimation on angles. After the second set was dry-fitted, I took a photo and used and editing program to check that they weren't noticeably divergent. Obviously this isn't the best method as I'm not even sure that the camera was square to the work. Later I used card to make the hooks on the wings. Here they are just waiting for wiring and the last few pieces of PE: The assemblies are quite heavy. So heavy that I used a drill to bore out the center of each rocket. I also modified the outer parts of the rockets so that they could slide past where the points of the support rods pierce the tube sides... that's why they look so rough. But once I put the PE endcaps on, they won't be seen. I had to make them so they could slide all the way through. I would have taken more dry-fit photos. But aligning everything is akin to coaxing a praying mantis into an envelope, I reckon. Thanks for looking! dodgem37, Fanes, Dpgsbody55 and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dpgsbody55 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Nice work so far, Gaz. I think this will be an impressive model when it's done. Cheers, Michael Gazzas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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