Eli Raphael Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Hi Gents, After a long and arduous life issues I have returned to my nest. Sorry for the lack of communication from my side. Anyway, a short story up 'till now. Zotz decals has ceased to exist. Death of my printer, moved residence of my drawing artist and my health issues has deemed necessary to do it. I'm, thank God, still modeling. Not as often as before, but still. Need help from you, Vietnam era Phantom fans (Thierry & Ben come to mind). Starting another F-4J and want advise on the ordenance that I want to install on her. My choice would be: Center line tank Sparrows (how many and position on lower fus.) Sidewinders? If so, how many and type used 67-73 era TERs on inner and outer wing positions. Weapons desired Mk.20s on inner pylons. Shoulder positions Snake eyes on outer pylons? Feasable? If so, how many? Thanks for the help, I'll keep in touch, promise. LSP_Ray, Anthony in NZ, Mr.T and 18 others 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Cant help with the questions sorry....but awesome to see you back around here! Ans another Phantom to boot Cheers Anthony Phartycr0c, Derek B, scvrobeson and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony T Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Nice to see you again Eli. For 1972-73 AIM-7E-2s (with the L-stripes on the wings) and AIM-9D/Gs (whole front section in anodised metal) Tony Kagemusha, scvrobeson and allthumbs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eli Raphael Posted May 3, 2021 Author Share Posted May 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Tony T said: Nice to see you again Eli. For 1972-73 AIM-7E-2s (with the L-stripes on the wings) and AIM-9D/Gs (whole front section in anodised metal) Tony Thanks Tony, How many? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony T Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 If Navy I'd go for four of each missile type with a c/l tank, and inboard wing pylon TERS with six Mk.82 LDGP (slick) or Mk.82 Snakeyes. I'd leave off the outboard wing pylons altogether unless doing a Marines jet. Cheers Tony LSP_K2, scvrobeson and Kagemusha 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kagemusha Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Great to see you back Eli. Eli Raphael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eli Raphael Posted May 3, 2021 Author Share Posted May 3, 2021 15 minutes ago, Tony T said: If Navy I'd go for four of each missile type with a c/l tank, and inboard wing pylon TERS with six Mk.82 LDGP (slick) or Mk.82 Snakeyes. I'd leave off the outboard wing pylons altogether unless doing a Marines jet. Cheers Tony Would you place empty outer pylons or leave that wing portion blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutik Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Welcome back, Eli! Regards - dutik Eli Raphael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony T Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Eli Raphael said: Would you place empty outer pylons or leave that wing portion blank Leave the wing blank, except for the pylon attach holes which are a bit different from the kit and slightly inboard of the Tamiya holes. Hopefully somebody can provide a couple of pics. Tony Eli Raphael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, Tony T said: Leave the wing blank, except for the pylon attach holes which are a bit different from the kit and slightly inboard of the Tamiya holes. Hopefully somebody can provide a couple of pics. Tony Drawings and data indicate that the outboard pylons are located 132.5 inches from the airframe butt line (BL), approximately 6 scale inches inside of Tamiya’s mounting position. Conveniently, there's a small mold pin at precisely the right spot, at least on my example. Edited May 4, 2021 by allthumbs Derek B, scvrobeson, Tony T and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Nice to know that you are still (reasonably) well and are once more back in the saddle - welcome back Eli. Derek Royboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phartycr0c Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 welcome home Eli Derek B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Welcome back Eli! Barry Derek B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill M. Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Eli, Great to see you back! Bill M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easixpedro Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Welcome back! As to your questions, I'll respond w/ the classic "It depends." Each CVW and squadron had their own SOP for loadouts, so I'd start by asking what squadron and time frame you're thinking about? As a general rule, they all used the centerline drops. Depending on the mission air to ground or air-to-air, they'd often just loadout Sparrows in the aft wells. Also depended on ordnance shortages, which also affected which Sidewinders and how many were loaded. I've been digging into VF-114 and VF-213's histories from 66-67. They were assigned to CVW-11 and during each line period, they'd be assigned either air-to-air or air-to-ground and then switch for the next period. Kept it easy to focus on a mission set I guess. But their squadron histories have revealed a wealth of information, including flying w/ wing tanks and an experimental centerline 20mm cannon! Of course everything I've mentioned covers USN squadrons. I'm not much help w/ USMC loadouts... -Peter ziggyfoos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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