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9 hours ago, oyoy5 said:

Crazy but you would think Dragon would be all over this.  There are some awesome paint schemes and also the nightfighter variant would sell of the shelf I believe.  Cmon Dragon let’s go......

 

Ok so first up ... we've all been saying this for ages here ... nothing new - you're right on the money! Who ever it was at Dragon / Cyber Hobby that designed the Bf-109.E and Bf-110.C, D and E kits should have been retained by the company at all costs ... They are the number one "go to" kits of their type. 

 

Why they didn't proceed further, we'll never know ... Perhaps, even with all it's boxing variations, it didn't meet sales expectations ... who knows?

 

It does seem that Dragon has reduced their output significantly in recent years ... along with a lot of other manufacturers ... as the global economy has contracted and we've seen no new 1/32 scale offerings from them.

 

I can confirm though, that all posts above are correct ... Pastor John's AIMS conversion is as easy to work with as any non-injection amendment is likely to be - and an accurate representation ... He has produced ALL parts necessary to convert ANY of the Dragon boxings to an accurate G-2 or G-4 ... You just need to inform him while making the order as to which boxing you possess. The Revell kit is simply a re-pop of the Dragon C-7 kit with better instructions, different markings and a crappier box! ... I'm pretty sure it provides decals for a BOB bird so it's on my hit list for future purchases!!

 

I agree with the "alternate sprue" theory given above - One (or two) nice big sprues, clear sprue and instructions would have done the job. One of the reasons that the D1 "Dackelbauch" kit seems to be on sale regularly is because of it's unpopularity compared to the others - it might have been better to invest the expense of that weird belly tank into a G variant instead ...

 

Rog :)

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20 minutes ago, Artful69 said:

 

Ok so first up ... we've all been saying this for ages here ... nothing new - you're right on the money! Who ever it was at Dragon / Cyber Hobby that designed the Bf-109.E and Bf-110.C, D and E kits should have been retained by the company at all costs ... They are the number one "go to" kits of their type. 

 

Why they didn't proceed further, we'll never know ... Perhaps, even with all it's boxing variations, it didn't meet sales expectations ... who knows?

 

It does seem that Dragon has reduced their output significantly in recent years ... along with a lot of other manufacturers ... as the global economy has contracted and we've seen no new 1/32 scale offerings from them.

 

I can confirm though, that all posts above are correct ... Pastor John's AIMS conversion is as easy to work with as any non-injection amendment is likely to be - and an accurate representation ... He has produced ALL parts necessary to convert ANY of the Dragon boxings to an accurate G-2 or G-4 ... You just need to inform him while making the order as to which boxing you possess. The Revell kit is simply a re-pop of the Dragon C-7 kit with better instructions, different markings and a crappier box! ... I'm pretty sure it provides decals for a BOB bird so it's on the hit list for future purchases.

 

I agree with the "alternate sprue" theory given above - One (or two) nice big sprues, clear sprue and instructions would have done the job. One of the reasons that the D1 "Dackelbauch" kit seems to be on sale regularly is because of it's unpopularity compared to the others - it might have been better to invest the expense of weird belly tank into a G variant instead ...

 

Rog :)

And as I said earlier that Revell boxing is an absolute steal if you are planning one of these conversions! Also to note regarding the Dragon 110s is the clear sprues are so damn brittle and need to be treated with real care. If the Revell clear is as good as their 88's then even better!

 

Regards. Andy 

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10 hours ago, monthebiff said:

And as I said earlier that Revell boxing is an absolute steal if you are planning one of these conversions! Also to note regarding the Dragon 110s is the clear sprues are so damn brittle and need to be treated with real care. If the Revell clear is as good as their 88's then even better!

 

Regards. Andy 

It will not be as Revell is not producing such sprues. They rebox the Dragon-made bagged sprues with new decals and instructions in other boxes. Nothing more.

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28 minutes ago, thierry laurent said:

It will not be as Revell is not producing such sprues. They rebox the Dragon-made bagged sprues with new decals and instructions in other boxes. Nothing more.

 

Odd ... well ... it seems so to me ...

 

I thought that these companies doing the re-pops had the moulds under licence (eg - Dragon moulds, Revell plastic) ... same with the re-popped Tempest (Special Hobby moulds, Revell plastic) ... otherwise Dragon would be selling injection moulded plastic rather expensively I would have thought ... If the moulds are supplied under a fixed lease, Revell can pop as much plastic as they'd like, yeah? ...

 

Anyway ... just goes to show you learn something new every day ... I never would have thought that thats how it would operate.

 

Rog :)

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2 hours ago, thierry laurent said:

It will not be as Revell is not producing such sprues. They rebox the Dragon-made bagged sprues with new decals and instructions in other boxes. Nothing more.

Interesting! I will contrast and compare my Dragon sprues with my Revell boxing when I recieve it on Friday!

 

Regards. Andy 

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1 hour ago, Artful69 said:

 

Odd ... well ... it seems so to me ...

 

I thought that these companies doing the re-pops had the moulds under licence (eg - Dragon moulds, Revell plastic) ... same with the re-popped Tempest (Special Hobby moulds, Revell plastic) ... otherwise Dragon would be selling injection moulded plastic rather expensively I would have thought ... If the moulds are supplied under a fixed lease, Revell can pop as much plastic as they'd like, yeah? ...

 

Anyway ... just goes to show you learn something new every day ... I never would have thought that thats how it would operate.

 

Rog :)

Keep in mind this would ask for moving heavy and cumbersome molds. This is far less cost-effective than purchasing some cycles of mold use.

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This also explains why such re-releases are always a limited edition. The number of models is limited to the sets of sprues purchased from the other company. Sometimes both companies agree on another run. I think this occured with some Hasegawa kits such as the Me 109G4 or the 1/48 FGR Phantom.

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