Thunderbolt Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Assuming equal cost, would you rather build a Do 335A by ZM or HK? Why? mpk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Williams Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 HK because it’s a simpler and easier build, and I don’t like the transparent plastic fuselages in the ZM kit. The ZM kit does have more detail, although much of it goes unseen, if that’s your thing. mpk, Basta, Mark P and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark P Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Agreed... IMHO, the HK Dornier among their better releases. Mark Proulx Basta and mpk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esarmstrong Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Don't really understand why ZM didn't release this model with both clear and regular fuselage and wings. I specifically stayed away from it for this reason. mpk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 3 hours ago, esarmstrong said: Don't really understand why ZM didn't release this model with both clear and regular fuselage and wings. I specifically stayed away from it for this reason. So did I. Fortunately the HK release is very good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Howie Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Modellers logic and posts from our past. ”Jeez why do ZM give you all that detail without a clear fuselage im not buying”. ”Jeez why do ZM give you extra clear parts to see all that detail im not buying”. The logic of modellers that choice is somehow worse. If anyone can ever make sense of it let the manufacturers know so they can. On the two kits if you want a simple clean kit id go HK. However given the two kits are basically around the same price and one offers you a staggering array of detail including engines etc for similar money its a no brainer. I bought a HK Destroyer and a Nightfighter as they are different and several ZM kits which are simply amazing. If you where considering opening any hatches id get the ZM kit anyday over the HK kit. Value for money ZM utterly annihilates the HK kit. Download the instructions for the ZM kit off the blog site its easily one of there best. Just depends what your after. Uncarina and Rick Griewski 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oyoy5 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I vote HK kit as well, I wish ZM would do a more basic kit with just the exterior that would be seen but then again that’s not why you buy a ZM kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbolt Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Darren Howie said: Modellers logic and posts from our past. ”Jeez why do ZM give you all that detail without a clear fuselage im not buying”. ”Jeez why do ZM give you extra clear parts to see all that detail im not buying”. The logic of modellers that choice is somehow worse. If anyone can ever make sense of it let the manufacturers know so they can. On the two kits if you want a simple clean kit id go HK. However given the two kits are basically around the same price and one offers you a staggering array of detail including engines etc for similar money its a no brainer. I bought a HK Destroyer and a Nightfighter as they are different and several ZM kits which are simply amazing. If you where considering opening any hatches id get the ZM kit anyday over the HK kit. Value for money ZM utterly annihilates the HK kit. Download the instructions for the ZM kit off the blog site its easily one of there best. Just depends what your after. Doesn’t HK offer engines as well? What is the difference in engine quality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Ray Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I don't know about ZM's, but HKM's engines are pretty good. These are my engines from my stalled Do335 build, with only a few stencils added, everything else is OOB. Greg W and Rockie Yarwood 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dpgsbody55 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I'm going to go against trend and vote for the ZM kit, precisely because it has all that extra detail. I have the A-12 version in my stash and am looking forward to building it and I will be building it with some hatches open to display some of the internals. I understand the attraction of the HKM kit, and having built one of theirs, can attest that they are very good kits. At the moment however, given a choice, I'm always going to go for the one with more detail. As my eyes deteriorate, though, that choice may change. Cheers, Michael Adrian and Uncarina 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Griewski Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I whimpped out I have on of each. Dpgsbody55 and Rockie Yarwood 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basta Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 14 hours ago, Darren Howie said: Modellers logic and posts from our past. ”Jeez why do ZM give you all that detail without a clear fuselage im not buying”. ”Jeez why do ZM give you extra clear parts to see all that detail im not buying”... On the two kits if you want a simple clean kit id go HK... If you where considering opening any hatches id get the ZM kit anyday over the HK kit. Well yes and no. ZM is clearly the ultimate extreme of the hatches-open, Swiss-army-knife philosophy of modeling, where it looks like the kit, however masterfully detailed, still needs final assembly. But average Joe modelers have not been clamoring for it; the semi-exploded look arose from competition modeling, to impress judges with super detailing. Tamiya first picked up on it, and now ZM, who cultivates a certain personal eccentricity for marketing, uses this to set his co. apart from the pack and he's gone down this route rather fanatically. Personally I'm not a fan. I like my plane to look ready to fly, not under major overhaul or a lab anatomy model, and often kits that do open panels don't do them well if you want them closed, the Revell 262's gun bays being a perfect example of probably shouldn't have given the iconic lines of the subject. But to each his own. Personally I'd like a ZM Horton but can't justify the steep price for how I'd build it, ignoring 95% of the parts. It's basically a clamshell with bits but the kit is a hi-tech tinker toy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b757captain Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 I've built them both, my preference hands down is the ZM kit. Even mostly closed up, the fine detail that can be seen in the cockpit, wheel wells and bomb bay in the ZM kit puts HK to shame. Adrian and Kagemusha 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Mike Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 I have kits from both. ZM has an interesting concept that has a certain appeal, and some great subjects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanna Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 I bought the ZM to replace the HK. Started the HK. Abandoned it because the canopy was such a joke. The sprue gate on my kit split the frame and clear window. When I contacted HK I found out about the great customer service. ZM all the way. Mike Krizan MicroShket and Adrian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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