Tnarg Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 "Real Men" make plank on frame kits with built up frames... no stinkin' laser cut bulkheads, and by the way, they hand nail every copper plate and fully detail the interior (mostly invisible) decks. I guess I never really qualified, but I understand the attraction completely (just like those nearly invisible inside rivets on a 1/32 bomber fuselage). I admire the Harvey and Caroline immensely. I only did the carved hull Dapper Tom kit decades ago, and it is still together. Maybe this suggests that wood is a better medium than plastic for longevity? Tnarg Rockie Yarwood, LSP_Ron, Rick Griewski and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juggernut Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 I have the 1/96 USS Constitution as well as the 1/96 USS United States, and the Mayflower, all Revell kits. Uncarina and LSP_K2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Mike Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share Posted January 5, 2021 Howz the Mayflower? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B. Andrus Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 7 hours ago, Uncarina said: One of these days: HMS Surprise! Is there a Surprise kit? I've read O'Brien's novels over and over. Would love to build one. Beautiful Bluenose, BTW. Rockie Yarwood and Uncarina 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juggernut Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, LSP_Mike said: Howz the Mayflower? I think it’s nice. It has the flexible ratlines like the bigger ships, sails, and its old enough that the Revell instructions have painting instructions for each step and numbered, written assembly steps. It’s not a big model but it seems pretty good. Since it’s not a big model, it’s pretty simple. I think the hardest part will be painting it in the colors called out. Note that nobody really knows what the original Mayflower looked like (paint) but the model is based off the builder plans for the Mayflower II. If you’re after one, be careful as there’s more than one version of the Mayflower. The later and I believe smaller one, has molded plastic ratlines and is not as nice. Edited January 5, 2021 by Juggernut Rockie Yarwood and LSP_K2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Mike Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share Posted January 5, 2021 Thanks Jug. DB, the Surprise from the movie is in Sandy Eggo next to the Star of India, and a Russian sub. D.B. Andrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncarina Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 2 hours ago, D.B. Andrus said: Is there a Surprise kit? I've read O'Brien's novels over and over. Would love to build one. Beautiful Bluenose, BTW. Me too! In all its 1/48 glory: https://victoryshipmodels.com/ship-model-surprise-wooden-static-kit-artesania-latina-master-commander.html Although it may be out of production sadly. Thanks for the compliment about the Bluenose. It was built just after college, and I hired a seamstress for the sails. Cheers, Tom LSP_K2, D.B. Andrus and Derek B 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockie Yarwood Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) Love sailing ships! The Revell Cutty Sark kit is hiding under my bed (yeah, I'm a 62 yr old kid). I built many of the Revell and Heller ship kits as a youngster. I really enjoyed the Revell Golden Hinde and and HMS Beagle, and the Heller Viking ship and Columbus's three ships. In wood, I've done a couple of model shipways solid hull kits. I also have a closet-full of ship plans and modeling books by Harold Underhill and other draftsmen. (Hope I live long enough to tackle a scratch-build some day!) I have an original release of the Revell Beagle in my stash - just for sentimentality. I built the kit when I was about 13, It was the first time I fully rigged a model ship. I was pretty proud of the result, and wanted to show it off to one of my mother's friends (to me she was Aunt Edna). After, I left the model on the arm of our couch. As Aunt Edna got up to leave she put her sweater on, swinging it over her shoulders, and it snagged the model sending it sailing into the kitchen where it smashed against the refrigerator! I think she was more horrified than I was! Cheers, Rockie Edited January 5, 2021 by Rockie Yarwood LSP_K2, phasephantomphixer, Derek B and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, Rockie Yarwood said: Love sailing ships! The Revell Cutty Sark kit is hiding under my bed (yeah, I'm a 62 yr old kid). I built many of the Revell and Heller ship kits as a youngster. I really enjoyed the Revell Golden Hinde and and HMS Beagle, and the Heller Viking ship and Columbus's three ships. In wood, I've done a couple of model shipways solid hull kits. I also have a closet-full of ship plans and modeling books by Harold Underhill and other draftsmen. (Hope I live long enough to tackle a scratch-build some day!) I have an original release of the Revell Beagle in my stash - just for sentimentality. I built the kit when I was about 13, It was the first time I fully rigged a model ship. I was pretty proud of the result, and wanted to show it off to one of my mother's friends (to me she was Aunt Edna). After, I left the model on the arm of our couch. As Aunt Edna got up to leave she put her sweater on, swinging it over her shoulders, and it snagged the model sending it sailing into the kitchen where it smashed against the refrigerator! I think she was more horrified than I was! Cheers, Rockie We are of a similar age Rockie and I share your experiences. I find that Ship modelling requires a totally different kind set to aircraft modelling (you certainly require more fortitude!). Scratch building model ships and boats is yet another different thing altogether - it is both very satisfying and frustrating in equal measure at the same time! However, the experience of building from plans is invaluable, technically, as you have to learn and have an understanding of archaic terms and meanings (something similar could be said for remodelling as well), but for my later life of master pattern making, both ship building and astonishing have kept me in good stead, especially when you need to translate 2D shapes into 3D ones using water and mould (mold) line! Derek Edited January 5, 2021 by Derek B Uncarina, Tnarg and Rockie Yarwood 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Mike Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 So, dug out my USS Constitution, and looked it over. I see where some guys double the lower gun deck bulkheads to show a thicker hull. Is it usually just gunport frames? The weather deck would need more of course. LSP_K2 and phasephantomphixer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnarg Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 You could always go nuts for reference material and purchase the book in the Anatomy of the Ship series on the Constitution (which has my highest recommendation), or the actual ship's museum has quite a few very interesting references: https://ussconstitutionmuseum.org/discover-learn/modeler-resources/ Scale Decks has a great wood deck and Radimir Beseda's hismodel site has lots of details in terms of blocks, gun barrels and carriages, scale rigging ropes, etc., etc.. He sells decks also but I like the look of many of the Scale Decks better. To each his own. Both of these guys are absolutely great people to buy from, even shipping from Czech to USA. https://scaledecks.com/ https://www.hismodel.com/ If you wanted to go a bit more in line with our larger scale planes, you can still purchase the 1/35 scale fighting top (mainmast top) kit of the USS Constitution with added crew figures. This was originally released by Meteor but now by Flagship Models: Not 1/32, but at least it could match the helicopters and maybe some of the submarine or PT boat kits in our larger scales: https://flagshipmodels.com/products/main-mast-fighting-top-diorama-mast-18-tall-yardarm-9-long Crew figures are available but are extra. (It's only money, you say...) Yes, this is a big kit, but think how large it could be if you made a cross section in 1/35. Now that sounds like fun... and a long project. Have fun with whatever you are building, Tnarg Uncarina 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly7 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 I have the 1/35 scale Greek warship Bireme by Amati. Plank on frame kit, fairly simple ( as wood ships go ) but complete. Nice kit. Uncarina and Derek B 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncarina Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Okay, okay, I just ordered the Occre HMS Beagle. This thread is a bad influence! Cheers, Tom LSP_K2, D.B. Andrus, Tnarg and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, Uncarina said: Okay, okay, I just ordered the Occre HMS Beagle. This thread is a bad influence! Cheers, Tom Indeed it is. I'm sniffing around for the big Revell Cutty Sark kit right now myself. Uncarina, Tnarg and Derek B 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Mike Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share Posted January 18, 2021 Agreed. I would really like to find a 1/96 Alabama or Kearsarge. LSP_K2 and Uncarina 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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