ericg Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) Not sure if it has been discussed anywhere else, but working on the new kit, It is made of ABS (or something similar) and normal styrene glue will not work on it. I was a little suspicious of the plastic it is made of when the sanding dust smelt like the same plastic that I use in my 3D printer, ABS. This was confirmed when parts that I thought were glued together started to fall apart or pulled apart with ease. I used Revell Contacta and Tamiya Extra thin, and both of these failed. I have subsequently started using glue that lists its ability to bond ABS plastic and have not had any problems. Eric. Edited September 22, 2020 by ericg LSP_Kevin, LSP_K2, Isar 30/07 and 13 others 8 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seiran01 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Well... that’s an interesting one. Thanks for the heads up LSP_Matt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Rademaker Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 What brand of glue did you finally use that worked? Thanks, Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) Maybe ask this member about the 108... Edited September 22, 2020 by Erwin Out2gtcha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I've heard there are similar problems with the 24 th Vintage Fighter Series kits. Can anyone comment ? I have the P-40 in the stash. Out2gtcha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Plastruct makes a specific formula for use on ABS, it's been available for years now. kalashnikov-47 and Rick Griewski 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I think that Microweld also works with ABS. Rick Griewski and Troy Molitor 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan_G Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 7 hours ago, Erwin said: Maybe ask this member about the 108... well I have used Tamiya Extra Thin for main plastic parts and Loctite CA glue for resin and PE but I cannot guarantee that it won't fall apart in future jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloorwestSiR Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Tamiya Extra Thin will work on ABS plastic but you need to be a bit generous with it. I recently built a Sabre Models railcar kit that was ABS and used Tamiya cement. Most joins were fine but a few needed a second application of glue. Tamiya does make an ABS specific cement. MikeC and Rick Griewski 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Ron Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 It will be interesting to know how well paint will stick to it without lifting from masking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul in Napier Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 In a perhaps related topic, I noticed Tamiya Extra Thin made more of a mess of my latest Eduard 1/48 MiG-21 compared to the older one I built. Instead of a ghost mark, more a tide mark. Plastic looks the same, but feels a bit softer. Maybe I got a bad 'un? mozart and MikeMaben 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seiran01 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 I'll just go pick up some more MEK from the hardware store - that stuff bonds pretty much everything under the sun including ABS D Bellis and Troy Molitor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daywalker Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Acetone works well bonding ABS if anyone has some of that around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archimedes Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Weird that ‘styrene glue’ does not work on ABS as the material the model is allegedly made from is Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene. Many glues are Methyl Ethyl Ketone (MEK) with some additives to make it slower setting up and dissolving the styrene. One can get a lifetime supply of MEK at hardware stores fairly cheaply but please use in a well ventilated area and very sparingly. Better yet test on some sprue before going anywhere near a model. Tenax7R is less smelly than straight MEK and includes solvents that work with ABS plastic as well as styrene. Tenax7R is a little slower working than MEK, and it evaporates more rapidly. I hope that helps. best regards, Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrish Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 This really reminds me of the old Monogram P-61 I built a couple of months ago...I think it was cast in black ceramic. Nothing in my arsenal worked on that one either not even MEK! I think I heard the model laugh at me at one point as it asked “is that all you’ve got?” I put it together with CA... Troy Molitor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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