Pup7309 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 40 minutes ago, Radub said: The G-6 is where the Bf 109 really matured. It was around the G-6 that most radical changes and improvements happened, armament, power plants, aerodynamics, which led to the later more streamlined versions. When publishers release books on the Bf 109 they prefer to split the lineage into two large categories: “pointy nose” (B,C,D,E) and “round nose” (F,G,K) which may explain why some think in terms of “early” and “late”. But that is too simplistic. Putting the F, G and K together into one large family just because they share a round spinner is missing the point. The F is quite different from the G. The G-6 alone deserves a book on its own. The K deserves a book on its own too because it was a “reimagined” Bf 109 inside and out, think of it like MiG-21 vs MiG-21 Bis, similar but not the same. Radu Sounds like a fun project Radu, I learned something- your enthusiasm is infectious- hope they sell like hot cakes. Rick Griewski, MikeC, Radub and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmayhew Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 6 hours ago, Pup7309 said: And personally I couldn’t care less about the incremental changes of the G6, as I’m interested in an E-Trop. But as long as it’s generally accurate not overcooked -goes together well and isn’t too expensive I’ll get it. Look forward to it’s release whatever version it is whilst I have confidence in their ability to produce an accurate rendition of whatever marque they decide to go with, I think Z-M are unlikely to meet your criteria for not being 'overcooked', 'going together well' (I presume you mean Hasegawa / shake & bake?), and inexpensive. the only company i think that could meet all those is a new tool Hasegawa anyway, back to ZM, I am hugely excited to hear Radu is involved with the project Radub and Royboy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastterry Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Ok here we go. Over on BM in the rumormonger section a member (and fellow Aussie) said that he was having a few beers with an engineer that did work for the big T before Covid hit. He said he was working on (CAD) a WW2 twin engined aircraft used in the Pacific. He did also say that a lot of CAD work is done on subjects that never see daylight. If what he was working on does make it into plastic it can really only be a P-38 as T must have lots of data that they used to make the 1/48 P-38s. You heard it here first unless it's all a hoax in which case this post will self destruct. TRF timvkampen, Archimedes, nmayhew and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Mike Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 I too am happy to see your involvement with ZM Radu. While I do have ah......a few Hase 109s, I'm sure I could find room for another. I would really applaud the effort taken to create an accurate 109. Not easy given the many changes and design subtleties. Radub and Rick Griewski 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul2660 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 All the books I have read on the BF-109 seem to point to the F model as the best overall. It was the favorite of many of the Aces including Galland. Only problem was lack of offensive weight of firepower. G6 had better firepower but overall flight characteristics suffered and only got worse as more firepower was added. I am a big fan of the G family look forward to anything new. Would not expect anything new from ZM till end of 2021 however. They have yet to release the balance of HS-129. And they still have the FW-190 our there somewhere. Paul C MikeC and esarmstrong 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kagemusha Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 I believe the next all new kit from ZM will be the Mustang III. R Palimaka, cbk57, nmayhew and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radub Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Paul2660 said: All the books I have read on the BF-109 seem to point to the F model as the best overall. Judging on specs alone, the G-4 was better than the F because it had the same armament and aerodynamics as the F but with the more powerful DB 605 engine, better armour and better radio. Radio thierry laurent, esarmstrong, D.B. Andrus and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMaben Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 22 hours ago, fastterry said: ... said that he was having a few beers with ... timvkampen, Rick Griewski, Pup7309 and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre F-86 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 As it stands, I have a Revell G-10 on my desk ATM and one more plus 2 G-6s in the stash. I bought a bunch of AM stuff for them, so I'll stay with what I have. At some point you have to draw the line and say I've got enough. I keep drooling over the Tamiya Corsair, but have a Revell and a Trumpie, so that will have to do. But if the Gods bless us with a Do-17Z, I'll sell my mother in law to get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Sabre F-86 said: As it stands, I have a Revell G-10 on my desk ATM and one more plus 2 G-6s in the stash. I bought a bunch of AM stuff for them, so I'll stay with what I have. At some point you have to draw the line and say I've got enough. I keep drooling over the Tamiya Corsair, but have a Revell and a Trumpie, so that will have to do. But if the Gods bless us with a Do-17Z, I'll sell my mother in law to get one. I'd dump the Revell and Trumpeter Corsair kits, and snatch the Tamiya kit; it's outstanding in every way imaginable. BarryWilliams, Rick Griewski, timvkampen and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B. Andrus Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 On 9/14/2020 at 1:40 PM, Kagemusha said: I believe the next all new kit from ZM will be the Mustang III. Fingers crossed, hope so. R Palimaka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Ron Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 hour ago, LSP_K2 said: I'd dump the Revell and Trumpeter Corsair kits, and snatch the Tamiya kit; it's outstanding in every way imaginable. Having built all three, your 110% correct. Out2gtcha and LSP_K2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzas Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Well... I hope that someone is developing it, and I hope it comes in the next year or two. Real tired of hearing: "109's are done to death". Maybe they were done to death for you. But every 109 kit I've seen needs some AM to make it right. And while you were perhaps getting done-to-death in the last 40 years, some of us weren't modelling. So, please just consider that many new models are made for others and not for that guy that has everything. I've got the Revell G6. I've paid twice as much for AM as I did for the kit. And there is more that I could have gotten. I've got a Hasegawa G6, too. And in the last couple of years, I built the ancient Monogram 1/32 G6 with it's very far from perfect dimensions, shapes, and fixtures for moving rudder and elevators. Are there any I missed? Just to exclude Trumpy, I bought there F4 which is really a G2. The spinner is way off and the rivets that aren't perpendicular to the skin caused me to use the kit for parts. Heh... it supplied the elevators and flaps for the ancient Monogram build. Anyway.... whoever builds it... and whether it be a 109G6 Late, or a 109G12... Thank you for your effort! it will sell. I guarandamnteeit. esarmstrong, RBrown, D.B. Andrus and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Mike Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Gaz, I think maybe the Revell 109G6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMaben Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 12 hours ago, Sabre F-86 said: At some point you have to draw the line and say I've got enough. Rick Griewski, chrish, Shoggz and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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