LSP_K2 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Trust me, after working in the engineering field for quite a number of years (decades), I never trust drawings other than those originating at the source, the manufacturer of the actual aircraft itself. With almost zero exceptions, most drawings simply cannot be trusted to be accurate. MikeC and Marcel111 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phasephantomphixer Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 My main motivation to correcting the Revell kit shortfalls; Back when the Mig Killer E boxing was issued, got four for price of one Tamiya. And then there's the RF-4 version. I have spent WAY too much of my hobbytime doing the corrections though! MikeC, Anthony in NZ and Marcel111 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chek Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 That's the thing isn't it? If just doing the one single example, all the corrections are an enjoyable means to the end of having a model the best you can make it. I find though with wanting multiple versions (for example an F-4B an F-4E an F-4G an F-4J etc. I'd prefer the only differences to be what changed on the aircraft in real life, not what the kit manufacturers made incorrectly. And repeating the same corrections gets to be a chore if not outright drudgery. LSP_K2, phasephantomphixer and cmayer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cees Broere Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 IMHO the Revell kit is a better option to convert into an FGR-2. LSP_K2 and Anthony in NZ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chek Posted September 2, 2020 Author Share Posted September 2, 2020 That's an interesting opinion Cees, because I've always thought the slab-sided Tamiya rear fuselage was quite Spey engine influenced. As well as the Tamiya navy kits' hard wing/nose etc. cmayer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 24 minutes ago, Chek said: That's an interesting opinion Cees, because I've always thought the slab-sided Tamiya rear fuselage was quite Spey engine influenced. As well as the Tamiya navy kits' hard wing/nose etc. Yes I was surprised at the thought of using the Revell kit section for an FGR conversion, but seeing his cut and splice efforts on LSM I am suitably impressed at how good it looks. Captures the Spey back end around the reheat cans really quite nicely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phasephantomphixer Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 There are areas where Revell has got it over Tamiya. But flipside, shape is more of an issue when it is off by Revell. The obvious areas like pinched radome, parts of fuselage too wide (perhaps where Cees sees advantage?) the spine is arched better than Tamiya which is first thing I noticed waaay back when I first looked at the Tamiya kit. The intakes for sure, and the chin, or gun also too wide. Anemic nose strut, but Revell did correctly locate the outboard pylons, but not inboard! For a kit, their stab at doing slats is passable, but surely need improvement. And their exhausts are better sized. Best part is the price if you can reasonably fix the faults. Cees Broere and Chek 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 And as a rule of thumb the more plans one enthusiast has produced the more suspect is the accuracy as you cannot be a subject matter expert for hundreds of different planes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 And the same may be said for book authors! I'm always double checking closely the contents of books released by D. D. in the US or A. E. in the UK. Some are good but for others the pictures are the only useful contents... I guess it won't be difficult for you to identify the full names... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cees Broere Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Especially booktitles that end with <insert aircrafttype>boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 hour ago, thierry laurent said: And as a rule of thumb the more plans one enthusiast has produced the more suspect is the accuracy as you cannot be a subject matter expert for hundreds of different planes! Thierry, I am just reading through your 'Tweak List' here for my FGR-2 build. https://www.largescaleplanes.com/articles/article.php?aid=2737 What are the Air conditioning scoops that need shortening 6mm? Are they the ones either side of the nose just behind the radome? Cheers Anthony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheetah11 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Hi Anthony 9 hours ago, Anthony in NZ said: Thierry, I am just reading through your 'Tweak List' here for my FGR-2 build. https://www.largescaleplanes.com/articles/article.php?aid=2737 What are the Air conditioning scoops that need shortening 6mm? Are they the ones either side of the nose just behind the radome? Cheers Anthony The scoops on the side of the fuselage behind the radome on the Tamiya kit match the length of the scoops in photos so check before cutting. Cheers Nick Anthony in NZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Cheetah11 said: Hi Anthony The scoops on the side of the fuselage behind the radome on the Tamiya kit match the length of the scoops in photos so check before cutting. Cheers Nick Thanks Nick, That's what I thought too, so figured it was something else... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Hi Anthony. I couldn't believe my eyes when I realized that Ben and me wrote that 15 years ago! So I cannot reply without checking as I did not look closely at such kits for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Brown Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, thierry laurent said: Hi Anthony. I couldn't believe my eyes when I realized that Ben and me wrote that 15 years ago! So I cannot reply without checking as I did not look closely at such kits for years. My, how time flies! I can't trust my memory of yesterday's breakfast, much less 15 years ago, so I also can't comment without digging the kits out of the closet. Just looking at photos of built kits and the real thing, yes, double-check before cutting the ACS scoops. They look okay to my much older eyes. Ben Edited September 11, 2020 by Ben Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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