JMcD Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, red Dog said: This is the only Viggen example I know that has open fuselage speed brakes. I have gone through all my archives to find another one, but none. Neither operational nor display aircraft, not a single one and that goes for all variants. I remember having read somewhere that these were very rarely used and Saab even totally deactivated them on JA37s. Anyone to publish an operational Viggen image with those brakes open is sure to receive a few dozens of likes here Edited April 8, 2021 by JMcD Violator1991, mattcour, Derek B and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMcD Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 6 hours ago, red Dog said: This landing gear well cover, too. Only the display aircraft have them open, no operational aircraft have them open when parked. Again, anyone to povide opposite visual reference will be highly and loudly applauded mattcour, Derek B and Violator1991 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vince14 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) Well that will save some effort on detailing the gear bays! Edited April 8, 2021 by vince14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainer Hoffmann Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Well, the main landing gear doors could be opened for maintenance, of course, but I've never seen them open on parked operational aircraft (and I've looked at lots and lots of pics when I researched the Viggen for my build ...) One thing with museum Viggens that always baffles me is the fact, that on most of them the arm/disarm lever of the ejection seat is in the "armed" position. When parked, it should of course be in the "disarmed" position. Rainer JMcD and Derek B 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 52 minutes ago, Rainer Hoffmann said: One thing with museum Viggens that always baffles me is the fact, that on most of them the arm/disarm lever of the ejection seat is in the "armed" position. When parked, it should of course be in the "disarmed" position. Possibly because people like to sit in the cockpit and the arm (as it is designed to do) gets in the way! (being sued for accidental injury may also be a consideration?). Derek Rainer Hoffmann 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenshb Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) Would have thought the explosive charges for the seat would have been taken out for museum aircraft, so it doesn't matter which position the arm/disarm lever is in. Oh, and I certainly wouldn't use that aircraft as a reference for matching colours... Edited April 8, 2021 by jenshb Paramedic, Rainer Hoffmann, Derek B and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anders_Isaksson Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 On 4/1/2021 at 11:11 PM, Kagemusha said: JetMads have indicated they may well produce other versions in the future. I could sure do with the SF version... Derek B, Kagemusha, Rainer Hoffmann and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainer Hoffmann Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Derek B said: Possibly because people like to sit in the cockpit and the arm (as it is designed to do) gets in the way! (being sued for accidental injury may also be a consideration?). Derek Interesting idea, Derek. However, ingress is from the left, so there should be no real problem with injury?? 1 hour ago, jenshb said: Would have thought the explosive charges for the seat would have been taken out for museum aircraft, so it doesn't matter which position the arm/disarm lever is in. Certainly the seat is without any explosives. But that is no excuse for putting the lever in the wrong position Rainer Derek B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMcD Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 The cad drawings on their website show the brakes openable but looking at the aft fuselage part, Jetmads too seem to have changed their mind. frank83, IvanVasili, Derek B and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMcD Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 The thing about the arming lever on the seat is that it has a strong spring and may cause injuries if untrained people, like museum workers or visitors, somehow try to close it. That's why it is always kept closed. Violator1991, Derek B, IvanVasili and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMcD Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) That's the spring... Edited April 8, 2021 by JMcD Spooky56, Landrotten Highlander, Paramedic and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matti Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 1 hour ago, JMcD said: The cad drawings on their website show the brakes openable but looking at the aft fuselage part, Jetmads too seem to have changed their mind. We’ll see about that. The red parts are / were still in production phase at the time the picture was released. Derek B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMcD Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 29 minutes ago, Matti said: We’ll see about that. The red parts are / were still in production phase at the time the picture was released. Yes, I know that. The airbrakes seem closed and integral to the part now, for only the panel line is visible. Othewise there would be a recess with some details if it was designed openable, and with a separate cover of course. Derek B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matti Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, JMcD said: Yes, I know that. The airbrakes seem closed and integral to the part now, for only the panel line is visible. Othewise there would be a recess with some details if it was designed openable, and with a separate cover of course. Yes, airbrakes seem to be in closed positions. I hope it’s not too late to redesign that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMcD Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 14 minutes ago, Matti said: Yes, airbrakes seem to be in closed positions. I hope it’s not too late to redesign that... I like open canopies, dropped flaps etc so open airbrakes would look good however that would not be accurate as all photographic references show them closed. As I mentioned, they were even cancelled on the JA37s, which must be why Jetmads revised their design, if that is the final version of the part. There's nothing wrong with it being closed and in fact it is more accurate this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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