Gazzas Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 16 minutes ago, Fred Jack said: I do have 4, but they were hard to order. I think when people realize how good they are, maybe business will pick up. I do have lots of Roden Nieuports and a bunch of Hobbycraft Nie 17s. The interiors aren’t all that detailed, but you really can’t see all that much anyway. Except the observer/bomber crew areas which have large open areas, you don’t need to have all that detail anyway. If you spend much time looking at WNW WIP's online, you will see that almost everybody details everything on those fine kits. Actually... of all of the WNW WIP's I've ever seen, the only person who skips on hidden areas is me. It's just what most people do. I am curious... how were they hard to order? MikeC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pup7309 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 On 8/5/2020 at 11:57 PM, esarmstrong said: Built by the French, but chiefly used by the Italians and Belgium as an export product. Sure would have been something to have seen this little aircraft with the WNW treatment. Sigh... So plenty of non Anglo- German options. Dr1 boxing with WNW instructions...what could have been. scvrobeson, Gazzas and esarmstrong 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pup7309 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Dr1 from Meng, SPAD X111 from Roden, HD 1 from ...? I’d say Roden if sales go well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esarmstrong Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Pup7309 said: Dr1 from Meng, SPAD X111 from Roden, HD 1 from ...? I’d say Roden if sales go well. I hope Roden really ups their game with these supposed new releases in big ways. Better plastic, better designed and fitting kits, decals that don't shatter if you look at them wrong, etc. ... Edited August 8, 2020 by esarmstrong Pup7309, rhwinter, scvrobeson and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pup7309 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, esarmstrong said: I hope Roden really ups their game with these supposed new releases in big ways. Better plastic, better designed and fitting kits, decals that don't shatter if you look at them wrong, etc. ... I’d say so. I heard their Wing/strut attachment points need attention. We are talking a re-tool I’m assuming for the SPAD xiii not just a re jig of the SPAD vii. If they do WNW or almost WNW standard they’ll be worth building and make them $ for more releases. CSM have done a great job with their Nieuports. Who knows maybe Eduard, ICM or someone else might have a go at WW1 and ‘tween wars kits. ICM did a nice job on the Gladiator. Edited August 9, 2020 by Pup7309 esarmstrong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Mike Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Roden needs to step up their strut attachment points as well as rigging points. Pup7309 and Gazzas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esarmstrong Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 (edited) Regarding the CSM Nieuports, if there is someone that Roden might want to view as a "gold standard" in WWI aircraft, it might be these guys. Those Nieuports are the most detailed and finest looking WWI kits I have seen. I realize it's heresy to some to make such statements in relation to WNW, but I have plenty of WNW kits with which to compare the CSM Nieuport. Edited August 9, 2020 by esarmstrong Pup7309 and Alburymodeler 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pup7309 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 On 8/10/2020 at 4:34 AM, esarmstrong said: Regarding the CSM Nieuports, if there is someone that Roden might want to view as a "gold standard" in WWI aircraft, it might be these guys. Those Nieuports are the most detailed and finest looking WWI kits I have seen. I realize it's heresy to some to make such statements in relation to WNW, but I have plenty of WNW kits with which to compare the CSM Nieuport. Yes it would be great to see more from them but I believe their output capacity is not a big as other companies and they need to make money on other lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Mike Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Not heresy to compare CSM to WNW. WNW set the standard. CSM is meeting it. scvrobeson, esarmstrong and Iain 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vince14 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Turns out that those CSM Nieuports were so unpopular that they're releasing another version... Oh, and they're making a 1/32 Caudron G.III and Sopwith Baby for 2021... scvrobeson, Out2gtcha, esarmstrong and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edfifer Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 On 8/7/2020 at 5:28 PM, Gazzas said: I am curious... how were they hard to order? Not hard at all. I preordered mine directly from the CSM online store. In the USA, Kitlinx (currently in stock) and Sprue Brothers (currently out of stock) carry them. In my opinion the CSM Nieuport is every bit as good as a WNW kit and a more interesting subject than half the WNW line. esarmstrong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcleon Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Just to respond quickly to a query about the differences between the Spad VII and XIII - there is very, very little similarity, although from a distance they look the same - the XIII is bigger in just about every dimension, with different curves and details ... just like French ladies! But both very beautiful, I may add. No seriously, and no disrespect intended, conversion from one to the other should not be contemplated... just buy the kit! Regards, Marc. mozart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Owens Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 I’d like a Spad VII/XIII for the same reason I bought the CSM Nieuports: the opportunity to do them in British, Belgian, & Italian markings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esarmstrong Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, Rob Owens said: I’d like a Spad VII/XIII for the same reason I bought the CSM Nieuports: the opportunity to do them in British, Belgian, & Italian markings! What about the good ole USA? You don't want to do us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europapete Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Major Rick would be most dissapointed. I am sure the aftermarket will supply us with LOTS of options for all these new releases. I will be getting all the kits for sure. Regards, Pete in RI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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