olgerd83 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Hi everyone. Decided to share with you my current project - SBD-2 Dauntless. Model will be built almost OOB, with some minor improvements As usual started from cockpit - masked instruments with wooden glue Added some wires for radio and throttle for rear cockpit instruments floor with pedals and gunner position some more wires for instruments covered all cockpit parts with black paint after - interior green Painted cockpit details and parts, added black wash to highlight structure and now I can close both sides of fuselage D.B. Andrus, Kagemusha, turbo and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett M Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Nice start! Looking forward to seeing your progress (and it'll help push me on my 5 ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody V Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Excellent start! However, there are two rear cockpit control sticks included in the kit but you only need one. Unless in use, it should be in the stowed position next to the fuselage. The quick fix for this is to remove the one mounted in the center. Don't feel bad, I've never seen one of these builds (including mine) that made the same mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olgerd83 Posted August 3, 2020 Author Share Posted August 3, 2020 18 hours ago, Archer Fine Transfers said: The quick fix for this is to remove the one mounted in the center. No I do not feel bad at all, no worries. Do you mean to remove this one? I found this picture as a reference and, yes the control stick is not there, but I thought a lot of other parts are removed, like radio for example, so the stick was removed as well.... Out2gtcha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody V Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Yea, that’s the one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olgerd83 Posted August 3, 2020 Author Share Posted August 3, 2020 ok, cool, thank you for letting me know until it's too late I have both sides ready to be glued, so I can remove it without any problems Do you know the reason, why they decided to put this stick into the gunner's place? There is no sense to have it, even in project, because even, if something happens with a pilot, rear gunner will not be able to have a control over the plane turbo, MikeMaben, AlbertD and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody V Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 24 minutes ago, olgerd83 said: Do you know the reason, why they decided to put this stick into the gunner's place? There is no sense to have it, even in project, because even, if something happens with a pilot, rear gunner will not be able to have a control over the plane From what I've been told it's there so the gunner can keep the plane straight and level while the pilot navigates. There are no recorded incidents of gunners landing the plane. He only has basic flight instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olgerd83 Posted August 3, 2020 Author Share Posted August 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Archer Fine Transfers said: From what I've been told it's there so the gunner can keep the plane straight and level while the pilot navigates so, in this case it's not a mistake to keep it, no? or it was "the best practice" to remove it in field... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody V Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 2 hours ago, olgerd83 said: so, in this case it's not a mistake to keep it, no? or it was "the best practice" to remove it in field... One of them has to go. They did not have two back there. When not in actual use it was stowed. Brett M 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunticus Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 The 1/32 OS2U Kingfisher I am currently working on has the exact same setup, the gunner has his own stick. I will have to look if it was common to remove it in Kingfishers as well..The gunner's seat & assembly look almost identical, too! Woody V 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett M Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Just to make sure we’re all on the same page.....the rear control stick isn’t removed from the plane. Like Woody said, it’s just stowed on the port side wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olgerd83 Posted August 5, 2020 Author Share Posted August 5, 2020 19 hours ago, Brett M said: Just to make sure we’re all on the same page.....the rear control stick isn’t removed from the plane. Like Woody said, it’s just stowed on the port side wall. Ok, so I will just cut it out and, when cockpit will be closed, we will pretend, it's somewhere inside fuselage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett M Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, olgerd83 said: Ok, so I will just cut it out and, when cockpit will be closed, we will pretend, it's somewhere inside fuselage You have it in there already.....below and to the right of the main stick and the red wobble pump stick Edited August 5, 2020 by Brett M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Molitor Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Some really nice work going on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldbaldguy Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Just to clear the air for you a bit, olgerd: The Dauntless had a guy in front and a guy in back. The guy in front flew the airplane 99.9% of the time, but sometimes he needed a break to use the relief tube, stretch , navigate, fiddle with something - whatever. When that happened, Douglas thought it would be a good idea to have very basic controls in the back so that the gunner could help out if needed. Basically, he had just enough controls to keep the airplane straight and level. The gunner's seat rotated and he could face either forward or aft. Douglas made the gunner's stick removable because when he was facing aft using his machine gun, the back of his seat would interfere with the stick (The gunner's stick is connected directly to the pilot's stick.) if the pilot up front needed to make hard maneuvers like pulling all the way back on the stick to pull out of a dive. To keep the stick out of the way, it was stored against the left side of the fuselage and probably never put in the socket unless the pilot wanted his gunner to fly for a bit. For some reason, the kit maker decided to have a stick in the socket AND one stored to the side, which is wrong. Your model should have only one stick in the back and it should be the one you glued on the left side and not the one you put in the middle. Make sense? LSP_Kevin and Brett M 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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