D.B. Andrus Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 A new photo of one of the colorful Fw 190D's has surfaced: I believe it to be Red 4, one of four 190D's used by the staffel, which was purported to be the only Fw 190D-11 (WNr. not confirmed) in use by the staffel, determined from less than perfect period photos. However, this newly discovered shot* brings that surmise into question. The aircraft pictured is definitely not a D-9 because of the enlarged air intake, as used on the D-11 and D-13. Therefore, it's either a D-11 or D-13, yes? Note that there are no outboard wing Mk 108 cannons installed. As the D-11 had 108's in the outer wing gun position and the D-13 didn't, my surmise that this aircraft is, in fact, Red 4 a Fw 190D-13. I have contacted Jerry Crandall re. this new shot. It will be interesting to see what he thinks! * https://luftwaffe-research-group.org/threads/fw190d-jv44.20712/#post-79803 * photo posted by Martin Trnkus Cheers, Damian Stefano, nmayhew, Out2gtcha and 11 others 12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBrown Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Very interesting Damian , thanks for posting! D.B. Andrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Molitor Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 I love it when these new pictures surface. Thanks Damian. I'd also love to see what the slogan was on this D-11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radub Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 It is definitely "Red 4". There is a photo of "Red 4" taken next to a Ju 88 on the Munchen-Riem airfield and published in Jerry Crandall's books. You can see the Ju 88 behind this aircraft. Nice find. Radu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Crandall Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Nice photo, it is "Red 4" D-11. It is not a D-13, note the closed cowl flap. The D-11 did not have the MK 108 30mm cannons mounted at the time in JV 44. There were five Doras in JV 44. Three D-9s and two D-11s. Cheers, Jerry Citadelgrad, D.B. Andrus, nmayhew and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B. Andrus Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 Busted!! So much for that theory. Hmmm, not so fast.... Out2gtcha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Gadbois Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 On a couple photos you can clearly see the gun bulges on the top wing so D-11. Interesting to know they were removed at some point. Alain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbolt Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 On 8/2/2020 at 5:43 PM, Alain Gadbois said: On a couple photos you can clearly see the gun bulges on the top wing so D-11. Interesting to know they were removed at some point. Alain hard to know if they were removed or never installed in the first place... nevertheless this is one of my favorite a/c and this picture is an excellent find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbolt Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 (edited) Here is another image of the same a/c. I'm not sure of my source. Seems to show the presence of a wing root fairing in some way, but no protruding cannon for sure. Edited April 21, 2022 by Thunderbolt D.B. Andrus and Troy Molitor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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