Gene K Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 On 12/24/2021 at 3:11 PM, Anthony in NZ said: ... @Gene K for spending many hours and multiple revisions to get these strengthening plates accurate, there are 6 pieces in total. The reason for "multiple revisions" was that as I was preparing the Silhouette cutter files, my references, including "scale" drawings from multiple sources like this, didn't quite match available after-market sets in various scales (Nautilus, Hypersonic, GTR, Flying Leatherneck, and ScalePhantomPhixer), nor photos like those in the excellent DACO book Rick highlighted above, nor with Mr. Google. I also scaled up scans from the 1/72 Airfix Brit Phantom as well as the 1/48 Zukei Mura F-4S for comparison. The most useful drawings were those posted from Navy F-4 Phantom Tech Manuals as shown here. There are some good discussions on LSP concerning the straps here and here, as well as in Chuck's outstanding build from 2013. Thanks, Anthony, for sharing your modeling perfection in such great detail. Just amazing!! Gene K MARU5137, C Baldwin, Landrotten Highlander and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted December 27, 2021 Author Share Posted December 27, 2021 Thanks @vvwse4. They are really good photos. On seeing those it confirms to me what a brilliant job @Gene K has done. I still have the centre piece to put on top of the main plate but I am just getting a nice tidy edge where it is glued on. Interestingly the Brit ones had a lot of PEC type filler all around these plates, but on other photos they look very clean like these ones you posted. Here is where I am at And have started working on the structure inside the Aux air doors... Cheers Anthony Landrotten Highlander, IainM, GMK and 14 others 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted December 27, 2021 Author Share Posted December 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Gene K said: The reason for "multiple revisions" was that as I was preparing the Silhouette cutter files, my references, including "scale" drawings from multiple sources like this, didn't quite match available after-market sets in various scales (Nautilus, Hypersonic, GTR, Flying Leatherneck, and ScalePhantomPhixer), nor photos like those in the excellent DACO book Rick highlighted above, nor with Mr. Google. I also scaled up scans from the 1/72 Airfix Brit Phantom as well as the 1/48 Zukei Mura F-4S for comparison. The most useful drawings were those posted from Navy F-4 Phantom Tech Manuals as shown here. There are some good discussions on LSP concerning the straps here and here, as well as in Chuck's outstanding build from 2013. Thanks, Anthony, for sharing your modeling perfection in such great detail. Just amazing!! Gene K No....thank you Gene. You have really found some interesting details and your perseverence to get them accurate has really paid off!! MARU5137 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted December 27, 2021 Author Share Posted December 27, 2021 On 12/26/2021 at 1:26 AM, DonH said: Looks great Anthony. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Thanks Don! Hoe you are getting some good modelling time in over the Xmas/new Year holidays? On 12/26/2021 at 1:56 AM, easixpedro said: I love seeing big bolts like that on airframes. You know it means they’re no longer messing around. Like grabbing a breaker bar for the ol’ wrench. Engineering at its simplest. Cracks forming? Wings flexing? Bolt/pound a bunch of rivets on a really long strap of metal and call it good. she had enough thrust to overcome the parasitic drag, so add a few more bolts while you’re at it for good measure… Can’t wait to see it all under primer. Hope you’re having a Merry Christmas! -Peter Peter, I have to admit I love seeing things that should be on a Tank rather than an airframe too. Means they ment business when they fitted them...LOL love your description! Cheers Anthnoy MARU5137 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattcour Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Nice job with the reinforcement plates! Derek B, MARU5137 and Anthony in NZ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted December 27, 2021 Author Share Posted December 27, 2021 1 hour ago, mattcour said: Nice job with the reinforcement plates! Thanks very much! MARU5137 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiZac Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 That looks brilliant, bravo Ant and Gene! Derek B, Anthony in NZ and MARU5137 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Kevin Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Always good to see more updates on this one, Anthony. Great work as always! Kev MARU5137, Derek B, IainM and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted December 28, 2021 Author Share Posted December 28, 2021 9 hours ago, KiwiZac said: That looks brilliant, bravo Ant and Gene! Thanks Zac, and of course thanks Gene from me also! 9 hours ago, LSP_Kevin said: Always good to see more updates on this one, Anthony. Great work as always! Kev Thanks Kev, I am pleased you are hanging in there with this with me! Quick snap before bed. Tonights efforts are sorting the thrust line of the Spey and setting the engine section angles and heights. But I soon realized the intake trunking went too far back and I had to get my cutter out and move them forward about 8mm. This took the fan front to the correct station frame. How I got the station frame wrong I dont know, but its right now and the engine fronts look much better further forward. And Kerry's lovely CAD engines are more visible. Anyhoo.... off to bed Scotsman, LSP_Kevin, Greg W and 11 others 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARU5137 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Anthony Super updates and those reinforcement plates are perfect ! ....impressive workmanship and you are showing us all some fantastic methods and techniques. STUNNING looking conversion so far. May your New Year Be Happy, Healthy and a prosperous one. Be safe. scvrobeson, Derek B and Anthony in NZ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scvrobeson Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Anthony, I know this may be late to the party, but I know that Masterclub and Meng both offer various sized bolts/rivets in their lines. Could produce the look you want instead of having to go through the work of sanding plastic rod to look like a bolt. Matt Anthony in NZ, Derek B and MARU5137 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted December 29, 2021 Author Share Posted December 29, 2021 11 hours ago, MARU5137 said: Anthony Super updates and those reinforcement plates are perfect ! ....impressive workmanship and you are showing us all some fantastic methods and techniques. STUNNING looking conversion so far. May your New Year Be Happy, Healthy and a prosperous one. Be safe. Thank you so much! Love your thoughts and encouragement 1 hour ago, scvrobeson said: Anthony, I know this may be late to the party, but I know that Masterclub and Meng both offer various sized bolts/rivets in their lines. Could produce the look you want instead of having to go through the work of sanding plastic rod to look like a bolt. Matt Thanks, I thought of that Matt, but shipping to NZ from the US is almost impossible right now and I cant wait.....I probably should have. Please somebody stop me! Most of this will barely be seen.... @Archer Fine Transfers you have me trapped in your vortex of products! Cheers Anthony IainM, Derek B, MARU5137 and 10 others 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squizzy Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Watching builds like this makes me start planning future builds, amazing work Anthony!!! Derek B, MARU5137 and Anthony in NZ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Squizzy said: Watching builds like this makes me start planning future builds, amazing work Anthony!!! Excellent! That's what it's all about Paint on. Tried not to get too fussy here. Started with a black base then built up with 3 shades of green. This area got filthy, and worn. I wont go silly in there but after I do a little wash, silver prisma pencil I should be all good to go to add plumbing....eeek In the above pic the green looks quite bright, but it dosent look quite that bright in real life. Maybe because its shown 10x bigger on my screen than the actual kit? Anyway I might have a lie down and think about wiring and plumbing Cheers Anthony (who's been on a roll today!) Landrotten Highlander, LSP_Kevin, scvrobeson and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARU5137 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Anthony, Your painting looks good from here. The green doesn't look garish on MY cell phone screen. Looks pale. GOOD job... Rock on Anthony. Anthony in NZ and Derek B 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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