Cees Broere Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 (edited) Thanks Anthony, One of the links in that thread directs you to the site of a certain modelling genius and who is a autodidact draughtsman too with some very nice drawings for the FG-1. http://soyuyo.main.jp/f4/f4e-1.html Edited August 21, 2020 by Cees Broere Anthony in NZ, Kais and Greg W 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Great work Anthony - I have just moved home, so it will take a while for me to get back 'into the saddle' as it were, si it may be some time before I can get back to you on anything specific. Cheers Derek Anthony in NZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Derek B said: Great work Anthony - I have just moved home, so it will take a while for me to get back 'into the saddle' as it were, si it may be some time before I can get back to you on anything specific. Cheers Derek No worries mate....glad you're back. No rush on those items. I am still working on splicing my WH lower wing section into the kit one. Needed to put lots of thought into that...coming along well though. Just got a Paypal refund with no explanation from Nautilus Models for the lower strengthening doubler panels I ordered....oh well.(edit: its a partial refund, so maybe postage was cheaper?) On a better note I have had contact with Pierre Greutert, the 32nd madman Phantom Fixer (his words LOL). His 32nd F-4S conversion with removed engine etc he has been working on is going to see if he can help me out with some etched ones he did. I will keep you posted. Hope to finish the splice by the end of the day and show you how I went about it (different from my initial idea) Cheers Anthony Edited August 23, 2020 by Anthony in NZ Derek B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvwse4 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Great show Anthony, I enjoy following this!! Anthony in NZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted August 23, 2020 Author Share Posted August 23, 2020 2 hours ago, vvwse4 said: Great show Anthony, I enjoy following this!! Thanks, I am glad to have you along too! Well, although I spent a huge chunk of the weekend working on this I dont seem to have a lot to show. I decided on a different cut/splice position as it will leave less clean up and sort the issue of moving the Aux intake doors forward one bay. This shows where I cut a piece of Tamiya belly out to cover the incorrect position of the WH one. This allows me to still use the kit plastic doors. Took a bit of time to get as best a fit I could and superglued it in. And I took a loooong time scratching and scraping the lower wing piece down. I have almost got a perfect fit ready to glue it in.... Lets hope I dont stuff it up with the superglue. Getting a tidy join is a bit tricky. Filled the outboard pylon mounting holes ready to remark and drill sometime Thanks for looking in Cheers Anthony johncrow, Starfighter, Landrotten Highlander and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Anthony in NZ said: Thanks, I am glad to have you along too! Well, although I spent a huge chunk of the weekend working on this I dont seem to have a lot to show. I decided on a different cut/splice position as it will leave less clean up and sort the issue of moving the Aux intake doors forward one bay. This shows where I cut a piece of Tamiya belly out to cover the incorrect position of the WH one. This allows me to still use the kit plastic doors. Took a bit of time to get as best a fit I could and superglued it in. And I took a loooong time scratching and scraping the lower wing piece down. I have almost got a perfect fit ready to glue it in.... Lets hope I dont stuff it up with the superglue. Getting a tidy join is a bit tricky. Filled the outboard pylon mounting holes ready to remark and drill sometime Thanks for looking in Cheers Anthony Very impressive Anthony - well done (this is more or less what I had envisaged with my conversion set breakdown, so your work appears to vindicate the approach). One thing I had long considered was the fuselage centreline pylon - the F-4J kit pylon is OK, but if that is copied onto the F-4K/M, which has a more downward sloping lower fuselage, without adjustment it could potentially cause the centreline fuel tank to be at an incorrect angle to the fuselage (pointing upwards at the front too much); you may need to check this out? Cheers Derek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted August 23, 2020 Author Share Posted August 23, 2020 Thanks Derek Yes, I totally think your approach would have worked. This conversion is overkill really. Having said that it is saving me a lot of scratchbuilding. Interesting point about the c/l pylon. I will check the centreline of the airframe closer to the time and see what the deal is! cheers Anthony Derek B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo59 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 I believe the “keel” line down the centerline of the belly of the f-4j and fg.1/fgr.2 was the same. The downward angle at the rear was due the way the engines were mounted. You might be ok with the centerline pylon. Derek B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted August 24, 2020 Author Share Posted August 24, 2020 1 hour ago, jimbo59 said: I believe the “keel” line down the centerline of the belly of the f-4j and fg.1/fgr.2 was the same. The downward angle at the rear was due the way the engines were mounted. You might be ok with the centerline pylon. Keel Line.....that’s the word I was looking for! Looking at photos you seem to be right. I’ll check my drawings when I get home from work Derek B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Aybara Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Wow. I remember drooling over this conversion but the price plus donor kit made it too much for a amateur like me. I never thought I'd see one in it's natural habitat! Anthony in NZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted August 24, 2020 Author Share Posted August 24, 2020 4 hours ago, P_Aybara said: Wow. I remember drooling over this conversion but the price plus donor kit made it too much for a amateur like me. I never thought I'd see one in it's natural habitat! Yes, shame I am not using a lot of it..... Ok, the keel line appears to be the same. Here is a capture from the Wings of Pegasus website Thanks guys Anthony scvrobeson, Kagemusha, Greg W and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted August 24, 2020 Author Share Posted August 24, 2020 OK, I have achieved a nice permanent join. I have decided (at this stage) not to glue the rear inner wing sections to the resin part. The reason is because I may have to sort the join out from the lower wing to main fuselage section.....we shall see. It's late, I have to go to bed, that was a bit stressful LOL Cheers guys Anthony Stevepd, vvwse4, John1 and 20 others 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvwse4 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Hi Anthony, Now this is nice work, I am running out of original things to say, maybe due to my lack of English verbs...... Sleep well, Rick chrish, Chris Wimmer and Anthony in NZ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo59 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 You did good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted August 24, 2020 Author Share Posted August 24, 2020 5 hours ago, vvwse4 said: Hi Anthony, Now this is nice work, I am running out of original things to say, maybe due to my lack of English verbs...... Sleep well, Rick Thanks Rick! LOL no need to think of new things, having you guys along helps me a lot as I am pretty green when it comes to the Phantom...but I am learning fast! 16 minutes ago, jimbo59 said: You did good! Thanks buddy! Appreciate the support gents, please make sure you point out things that need addressing with Brit Phantom's as I go in case I miss them. No sense going to all this effort to leave stuff out etc. Cheers guys Anthony Derek B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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