Dave Williams Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, coogrfan said: Bottom line: in the near future I'll be able to build the WNW Fokker (or a reasonable facsimile). Cool. Sorry, we aren’t allowed to simplify it like that. We have to discuss whether it is the WNW mold, how they got it, financial details, where the engine comes from, the box art, problems with the CAD, etc. coogrfan, Derek B, Alain Gadbois and 5 others 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 33 minutes ago, Dave Williams said: We have to discuss whether it is the WNW mold, how they got it, financial details, where the engine comes from, the box art, problems with the CAD, etc. We are a fascinating lot aren't we John1, Bill_S and adameliclem 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kagemusha Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 18 minutes ago, Out2gtcha said: We are a fascinating lot aren't we Out2gtcha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19squadron Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 8 hours ago, Trak-Tor said: So here is WNW's Dr. I as presented in Telford last year: Scale ModelWorld 2019 - Telford The sprues look similar to me... Juraj And what is interesting about these shots is that there are ;- no pads on the wing leading edges no inspection hatch between cowl and carb intake and no [visible] rib tape. so what are the odds that WNW finished the tooling? or that Meng had a hand in those final details? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 1 hour ago, 19squadron said: And what is interesting about these shots is that there are ;- no pads on the wing leading edges no inspection hatch between cowl and carb intake and no [visible] rib tape. so what are the odds that WNW finished the tooling? or that Meng had a hand in those final details? Actually, the stacking pads are there, they're just tiny. Hatch and barrel jackets are just P.E., so no real big deal there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 The ropes on the middle wing perplex me, as WNW would never have signed off on that. Perhaps this is an early test shot that Meng had retained for themselves? I really have no idea, but I seriously hope they correct that, as it really looks bogus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbk57 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 46 minutes ago, LSP_K2 said: The ropes on the middle wing perplex me, as WNW would never have signed off on that. Perhaps this is an early test shot that Meng had retained for themselves? I really have no idea, but I seriously hope they correct that, as it really looks bogus. Could it be lighting or perspective, there are two shots I see of the wings from Meng, one from the front where the rib tapes look gigantic and one from the rear where they don’t. In the original photos from Telford there is evidence of wing tapes but they are hard to see. I blew up the photos to the extent i could but angle, lighting and image resolution minimize them. I am wondering if we are getting a good photo at present of the kit images from Meng. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boiss123 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 (edited) the one thing that I am wondering is what markings it will come with, as the box art states that you get the parts for doing f.1, d.1early and d.1 late they must have at least three marking options in the box, but what markings? One is for the Red Baron but by the box art I hope not Edited June 22, 2020 by boiss123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boiss123 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 (edited) pic of the PE, can't get it to work sorry Edited June 22, 2020 by boiss123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunwinglow Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 On 6/20/2020 at 9:58 AM, nmayhew said: can someone please explain the faux pas with the engine box art? It is a rotary engine, so if the prop is going round, the cylinders should be a blur... I bet the artist just traced over a CAD render, and not knowing much about WW1 aero engines, painted what was on the render. He knew enough to blur the prop, but then my 5 year old granddaughter knows about aeroplane propellers..... Me, an influence?! Maybe, just a little..... nmayhew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunwinglow Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 I just back-ordered one from Hannants. Do you know what? I am going to wait and see what is in the box when it arrives.... Bob MDC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 So we’ve conclusively established the following: 1- this is the WNW product, no need to discuss any further. 2- wings are hopelessly botched due to stacking pad fiasco and require resin replacement. 3- middle wing is hopelessly botched due to tape issue and requires resin replacement. 4- box art is hopelessly botched and upon purchase, engine must be blurred with a sharpie. Or, if we are lucky, the box the corrected resin wings comes in will have updated art. Have I missed anything? Rick Griewski, Greif8 and coogrfan 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adameliclem Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 9 hours ago, Out2gtcha said: We are a fascinating lot aren't we Yup. I've described LSP to non-modeling friends as "Mystery Spectrum Theater 3000." Rick Griewski 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob MDC Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 To be devil's advocate on this, until the kit injection moulded parts can be seen no real conclusions can be made. So far test shots, 3D renders, 3D prints and speculation are the order of the day so lets hope the production kit has none is the "problems" noted. As we have been working in the 3D print/reproduction manufacture for over 10 years companies want their product to be seen asap but forget they show the wrong version An old Scots saying "there's many a slip between cup and lip" Bob Rick Griewski, Kagemusha, Gazzas and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Well said Bob, well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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