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Any of my thoughts beyond “either they ship my kits in the next few weeks or refund my sizable purchase” are immaterial :)

 

Im trying to be patient as they laid off the only people who knew the wnw ordering/shipping system, they need to navigate whatever relevant employment laws to either bring someone back to fulfill shipping or find someone new. 

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FYI, anyone really desperate might want to keep an eye on Kitlinx site. They were expecting a shipment of some WNW NOS as well as some other items from other vendors and the rather large shipment has gone missing. They are trying to find the shipment, so they are in stay tuned mode.

They are inflating their prices on WNW stuff, however, but then, I don't know what they are paying for the stock, either.

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11 hours ago, RLWP said:

It was a successful car in India, and Tata were very proud of it - understandably as it was a cause of pride over there. It was a disaster for the UK due to the level of equipment and the quality of the build. MG Rover knew it and told Tata - who didn't want to hear. The biggest problems in that project were cultural rather than engineering. Most of them seem to have become MG-R manager's wives cars, not that there very many in the first place

I heard that Rover were only paying Tata £900 for each vehicle, yet they were selling them in the UK for nearly £7k. It might not have been so bad if the Rover management had sold them for a more realistic price.

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16 minutes ago, vince14 said:

I heard that Rover were only paying Tata £900 for each vehicle, yet they were selling them in the UK for nearly £7k. It might not have been so bad if the Rover management had sold them for a more realistic price.

 

I'm not sure we ever sold one. There were some built up as a kind of pre-production exercise (D02/2?) and that's it.

 

No idea on prices, I may have got into most of the engineering areas at Longbridge, Sales and Marketing wasn't my thing

 

Richard

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19 hours ago, vince14 said:

You sure Vauxhall and Rover can be classed as great car companies? Vauxhall has made nothing but dire crap since 1945 (the only good Vauxhalls were re-badged Opals) and has constantly been on the verge of collapse since the 1980's. Whereas Rover made a car - the CityRover, a re-badged Tata Indica - that was so bad they refused to lend one to Top Gear for them to review, and it actually hastened the demise of the company just two years after it was released.

 

I mostly agree re Vauxhall since the GM takeover back in 1925.  However, Rover was a great car company for much of it's history.  Alas, it was forced into take over by BMC's takeover of their body suppliers who threatened their supply, and within a year wound up as part of British Leyland.  Although BL called themselves by different names in later years, it was still the same company, run by mugs.  Rover had been a very dynamic company in the post war years, driven by engineering integrity rarely equalled by other manufacturers, and yet profitable too.  Which other company could have given us Land Rover, Range Rover, the jet propelled cars of the 50's and early 60's, and the brilliant P6 2000/3500 range??

 

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These are Rovers.  BL wound up the company as at 1st January 1972, and anything designed and released after, is not. So that city rover thing is just an abhorance and should not be referred to as a Rover.  Just like the LEYLAND SD1.

 

 

Cheers,

Michael

Edited by Dpgsbody55

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On 5/21/2020 at 5:28 PM, scvrobeson said:

Has anyone gotten shipping notices from Wingnuts for kits ordered before they closed down orders?

 

 

Matt 

Hi William     May 12th


Thank you for reaching out to us, we appreciate your concern regarding your order #----- with Wing Nut Wings.

Please rest assured that your order will be processed as soon as we can.

Please let me know if you have any further questions otherwise I’ll be in touch again with tracking information, as soon as your model has been shipped. We’re hoping this will be within the next 2-3 weeks.  Alternatively we can offer you a full refund.

Take care and stay safe,
WingNut Wings

 
 
RACHELLE ANDREWS  l  ASSISTANT ACCOUNTANT
TELEPHONE +64 4 909 7815  l  MOBILE +64 274 127 007

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Posted (edited)

And one more..  When I ordered.   I now believe that I won't be seeing these kits,and have time to ask for a refund.

 

 

Hi,

Thank you for your interest in placing an order with Wing Nut Wings.

We just wanted to acknowledge receipt and confirm that we’ll be in touch when we’re in a position to resume sales.

Best wishes,

Edited by williamj

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4 hours ago, 19squadron said:

You do realise that the P6 and SD1 and the Range Rover were all designed by the same man?

 

 

Where did you get that idea??  None of these cars were the work of one single man.

 

Peter Wilks was the project Chief on P6 with Gordon Bashford doing much of the suspension and body design.  Spen King's biggest involvement was to insist on the engine bay being made as wide as possible to ensure that the car could take a gas turbine engine.  Alas Peter Wilks had left the company in 1971, forced out by ill health, and was dead long before SD1 was released.  He had very little to do with SD1, or P10 as it was originally envisaged.

 

Range Rover was largely designed on Gordon Bashford's kitchen table in 1966, by Bashford and Spen King.  Only after that did the rest of the design team get involved.  And Range Rover suffered by being released too soon on the insistence of Lord Stokes, the British Leyland chairman, as he wanted a new car launched every year in June in time for his birthday.  After that, BL did no development on it for eight years as it was one of the few products making money, so it's profits were syphoned off to support the loss making crap.

 

SD1 was a largely British Leyland design.  As I said, Rover as a company ceased to exist on 1st January 1972, being wholly absorbed into BL and part of the Rover/Triumph division, then shortly after, Specialist Design division of Jaguar/Rover/Triumph.  IE; Rover was just a badge.  The Leyland masters decided that SD1 would be a much cheaper car to build and a saw it's competition as the Ford Granada etc.  Spen King had been made chief engineer of the Specialist Division, but much of his time was diverted to cars like the Dolomite.  There was a lot of input from Triumph designers into SD1, but the car's real issues were the cheap components supplied to BL, and it's unbelievably poor build quality caused by a dis-spirited work force who were moved about from one factory to another, building cars they were not trained for, and not used to.  However, the basic engineering of the SD1 was sound, with the possible exception of the Triumph designed 6 cylinder engine, and the car could have been so much better than it was, but for mismanagement and dodgy build and component suppliers.

 

 

Cheers,

Michael

Edited by Dpgsbody55

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A request to the Moderators of this site. I would greatly appreciate it if my name was removed from the subject title of this thread.

 

I wrote the article regarding the closure of Wingnut Wings for the WW1 aircraft models forum which was shared here and drew some hostility before the thread was edited.

 

Now however the LSP thread seems to have degenerated into a debate on old cars, for which I hold zero interest. I have no wish to be tagged to this thread and would therefore ask for the title to be adjusted. 

 

Dave Wilson

Gold Coast

Australia

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