Alex Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 The sponge and liquid mask technique looks like one I need to try! I am also finally going to take the plunge on trying MRP paints, and your endorsement is just making me more excited about that. Thanks for sharing your experiences with all of these techniques. If you have time to take a couple closeup photos of the effect that the metal liner washes achieve, that would be most appreciated. chuck540z3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Wow.... that wash really changes everything. Very nice. The only downside (from my perspective) is that to look the best, it needs to be applied to models with recessed rivets, like yours. For kits with raised rivets, I would assume it would be of limited usefulness? chuck540z3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck540z3 Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 19 minutes ago, Alex said: Thanks for sharing your experiences with all of these techniques. If you have time to take a couple closeup photos of the effect that the metal liner washes achieve, that would be most appreciated. Thanks and sure. As mentioned above, photographing this model is hard to do due to the shine which is very reflective, especially on curved surfaces like the fuselage. Here are two of the right wing from different angles that show the chipping, metallic wash and the residual brown staining of that wash, which is a good starting point for further weathering. Cheers, Chuck Cheetah11, Brett M, Elftone and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck540z3 Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, John1 said: Wow.... that wash really changes everything. Very nice. The only downside (from my perspective) is that to look the best, it needs to be applied to models with recessed rivets, like yours. For kits with raised rivets, I would assume it would be of limited usefulness? While not as pronounced, I think it would still add something to raised rivets, giving them a bit of a metallic sheen, as shown again on the sides of the Spitfire. On my Spitfire I used Tamiya Silver pastels to try and get this look. And it worked OK, but this Metaliner wash is much better. Cheers, Chuck Christoffer Lindelav, dodgem37, Landrotten Highlander and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemi Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) Here is the best weathering I have ever seen. Maybe you can get some tips from this site. I worked on aircraft 22 years I would say he has it spot on.https://chriswauchop.com/ Edited October 29, 2020 by Hemi Marcel111, Anthony in NZ, AlbertD and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvwse4 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Looks great Chuck!! What a start great stuff!! Rick chuck540z3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 5 hours ago, chuck540z3 said: Thanks and sure. As mentioned above, photographing this model is hard to do due to the shine which is very reflective, especially on curved surfaces like the fuselage. Here are two of the right wing from different angles that show the chipping, metallic wash and the residual brown staining of that wash, which is a good starting point for further weathering. Cheers, Chuck Thanks Chuck - it looks great. I'm thinking these will also be very useful on a late-war badly chipped IJAAF machine - photos of these often show paint being lost starting with rivets and panel edges, so having and easy way of making those metallic will be a great help. chuck540z3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Coming along magnificently Chuck! Those metallic washes look the biz, I've tried to achieve the same effect with aluminium enamels but it just leaves sparkly residue all over the surface like the model's on its way to a 70's disco. If you want to try and achieve that chipping pattern along structural and rivet lines shown in your picture of the museum Spitfire, I've found this can be most effectively done using a silver pencil (first image) or hairspray if there is sufficient surface detail for your brush to grab onto (second image). Keep up the good work, loving it! chuck540z3, Alex, Kagemusha and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck540z3 Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 Thanks for the feedback guys and the chipping and weathering tips. Having said that, I just started! You haven't seen anything yet! As you all know, good weathering is made up of many thin stages and I'm only on Stage 1. Three things come to mind: 1. No chipping will look good or realistic with a glossy finish. I need a flat coat and I'm a long way away from that right now. 2. No chipping will look good or realistic without further weathering. Chipped up birds are almost always dirty. 3. Chipping and weathering is an art and like all art, what I do won't always appeal to everyone. I don't like the plaid look of heavily pre-shaded panel lines and although I do like the look of a dark wash in panel lines and rivets (like my in-progress shots), they don't look realistic to me in all cases, like this Tempest. For some aircraft like my F-4E I built 8 years ago, a bit of a dark wash worked and this is a good indication of where this Tempest is headed with salt weathering. More salt weathering, but this time on a dull metallic finish. Cheers, Chuck turbo, dodgem37, Kagemusha and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett M Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Stop showing that F-4E.....I’m going to end up buying one. AlbertD, Anthony in NZ and chuck540z3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck540z3 Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, Brett M said: Stop showing that F-4E.....I’m going to end up buying one. Yeah, I really shouldn't.... Cheers, Chuck nmayhew, dodgem37, AlbertD and 5 others 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett M Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Just now, chuck540z3 said: Yeah, I really shouldn't.... Cheers, Chuck Quit it! F-104G.....F-104G........ oy, that looks good chuck540z3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B. Andrus Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Really enjoying your Master Class on the Tempest. Beautiful work and helpful to others, as well. Cheers, Damian chuck540z3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbertD Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 47 minutes ago, Brett M said: Stop showing that F-4E.....I’m going to end up buying one. Buy one, just do it. You know you want too. chuck540z3, Anthony in NZ, Alex and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanes Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Fantastic start with the chipping and the metallic wash! I tried silver oils (oilbrusher from Ammo) and they can be removed a lot more easily than water based stuff. Anyway, I'm taking notes for all the future builds of RAF birds in my stash chuck540z3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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