crobinsonh Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 If I was choosing to model this particular aircraft which of the 1/32nd Tamiya Corsairs is the best starting point? https://www.fleetairarm.com/exhibit/corsair-kd-431/2-4-18.aspx Thanks, Martinnfb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crobinsonh Posted April 28, 2020 Author Share Posted April 28, 2020 Thanks Jennings that is just the direction I needed. Martinnfb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Regarding KD431, She's an awesome exhibit because she's never been "restored" and shows what an in-service Corsair actually looked like. Someone did a book on her, that detailed all the nuances of her paint scheme and weathering. I looked for it when I was doing my F4U-1D build but it was only available on E-bay and was frightfully expensive. Good luck with your build, please post pictures!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wegener Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Have patience regarding ‘The time capsule fighter’ - after failing to get one from the FAA Museum, I stalked it on eBay for a while and eventually one showed up at what I regarded as a reasonable (would have probably been under £30) price, which I snaffled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark P Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Just purchased a copy for $26.00 US... Mark Proulx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juggernut Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) Me too... paid $33 including shipping. Could've gotten it a buck or so cheaper but would've had to wait until the end of May for delivery... All these free shipping shops use media mail so it's slooowww. Jennings, I think you were correct in your first assumption that this aircraft is based on the FG-1A. Note there's no bomb/drop tank plyons; a clear indicator of the -1D series. This is a Corsair IV but that only means it was made by Goodyear according to Dana Bell's, F4U-1 Corsair Vol. 2 (pgs 2, 3). The gloss sea blue color is not indicative of the -1D series from Goodyear. According to Dana Bell, that change occurred at FG-1A construction number 1288, bureau number 14279 (page 6). That prop is the original prop for the F4U-1 series, not the later one, or as you referred to it, the "combat prop". According to what I'm understanding from Dana Bell's, F4U-1 Corsair Vol. 2 book, the FG-1D didn't appear until after this guy was built. I may be misinterpreting what I'm reading though as I can't find a definitive construction number for the first FG-1D unless I'm overlooking it. The Goodyear production/bureau number/FAA numbers are on page 6. Edited April 28, 2020 by Juggernut Corrected reference cite MikeC and nmayhew 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunwinglow Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) Book has been reprinted, I picked a copy up from the museum at Yeovilton a few months ago. It is written by the museums curator, Dave Morris.... Museum is closed to visitors, but their web shop might still be working. It is a brilliant book if you are modelling a Corsair! Just checked, no, web shop is closed too at the moment. https://www.fleetairarm.com/ Edited April 28, 2020 by wunwinglow added authors name Alburymodeler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iang Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 KD431 is a FG-1D CORSAIR IV under Cont No.a(S)1871 & Requisition No.N-1450, numbered KD255 to KD560. BuAer Nos.14686 to 14991. So you need the Tamiya F4U-1D kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana Bell Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, iang said: KD431 is a FG-1D CORSAIR IV under Cont No.a(S)1871 & Requisition No.N-1450, numbered KD255 to KD560. BuAer Nos.14686 to 14991. So you need the Tamiya F4U-1D kit. Hi iang, I'll have to disagree on this. David Morris' Time Capsule Fighter book believed that the aircraft was an FG-1A. My own search of the BuAer records confirms Morris' opinion. KD431 was constructor's number 1871, BuNo 14862. The first FG-1D was constructor's number 2002, BuNo 76140. The defining difference between the FG-1A and FG-1D was the presence of the twin pylons with piping for fuel on both pylons - KD431 did not have the pylons and still carried the outboard wing tanks. Cheers, Dana MikeC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crobinsonh Posted April 28, 2020 Author Share Posted April 28, 2020 Thank you to everyone for the great discussion. I have the book - I bought it from the museum when it was first published and is a great read. I have the "later" cockpit from Eduard Brassin - the F4U-1D? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 2 hours ago, wunwinglow said: Book has been reprinted, I picked a copy up from the museum at Yeovilton a few months ago. It is written by the museums curator, Dave Morris.... Museum is closed to visitors, but their web shop might still be working. It is a brilliant book if you are modelling a Corsair! Just checked, no, web shop is closed too at the moment. https://www.fleetairarm.com/ Thanks for the tip, just found it for $32 on Amazon, order placed! wunwinglow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iang Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dana Bell said: Hi iang, I'll have to disagree on this. David Morris' Time Capsule Fighter book believed that the aircraft was an FG-1A. My own search of the BuAer records confirms Morris' opinion. KD431 was constructor's number 1871, BuNo 14862. The first FG-1D was constructor's number 2002, BuNo 76140. The defining difference between the FG-1A and FG-1D was the presence of the twin pylons with piping for fuel on both pylons - KD431 did not have the pylons and still carried the outboard wing tanks. Cheers, Dana Hi Dana, I took my information from Sturtivant and Burrow's Fleet Air Arm Aircraft, 1939-45. Ian Edited April 28, 2020 by iang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana Bell Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 hour ago, iang said: Hi Dana, I took my information from Sturtivant and Burrow's Fleet Air Arm Aircraft, 1939-45. Ian Hi Ian, You chose a highly respectable source, one that can be relied on for a variety of facts. However, the serial assignments in most published sources are not correct. I spent two years researching the -1 variants of the Corsairs, so I can promise that my data is correct. I intend no disrespect of Sturtivant, Burrow, or you - I simply had the advantage of newer files opening for public research when I started my dig. Cheers, Dana iang, D.B. Andrus, nmayhew and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Ray Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Got a couple of pics I took from a different angle: You can see the canopy still has the cross support of a -1A, but of course it could also be found on a very early -1D. Didn't know about the book, or I would have bought one when I was there. :/ MikeC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennismcc Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 (edited) OK you got me, it looks to be a fascinating story so I have just just ordered a copy of the book at £21. Cheers Dennis Edited April 29, 2020 by dennismcc wunwinglow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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