Andrea Ferrari Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Having struggled for weeks now with Vallejo's Air Color set for the Trumpeter 1/32 Su-25 I'm currently building - and having sworn never to fall for Vallejo's seductive packaging and clever marketing again - I'm now wondering what MrColor/Gunze (or even Tamiya, as a last-ditch resort) acrylics should I pick for my future project, Trumpeter's 1/32 big and beautiful Su-27. I am not familiar at all with Russian/Soviet blues and greys and their equivalent in the hobby - any suggestions about which MrColor/Gunze numbers should I choose? I don't really trust as usual Trumpeter's color calls, and I am asking now because they are not easy to come by here in Italy and I might end waiting for a long time before they are delivered given the current pandemic...Thanks to all kind enough to reply ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbetty Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 all gunze colours are comming (at least before the pandemic) from Asia, with free shipping (search on ebay and tic the free shipping box) for about 3.50€ it mostly takes a week or two. that works in austria,so italy may not be very different ciao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red Dog Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Here is what I used on mine Pale blue FS35526 = 1xH45 + 2xH308 + 5xH11 Blue FS35190 = 5xH11 + 1xH308 + 1xH322 Grey H308 All of this was heavily weathered and faded accordingly for this result: Wip was here on the forum if I remember right and on my blog: https://reddogsmodels.wordpress.com/2010/06/13/132-su-27-flanker/ scvrobeson, thierry laurent, Andrea Ferrari and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrea Ferrari Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, blackbetty said: all gunze colours are comming (at least before the pandemic) from Asia, with free shipping (search on ebay and tic the free shipping box) for about 3.50€ it mostly takes a week or two. that works in austria,so italy may not be very different ciao Yes, that is how I usually get them - eBay or online shops... I just don't know which ones should I order to finish a Su-27 in those beautiful Soviet blues and greys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrea Ferrari Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 Just now, red Dog said: Here is what I used on mine Pale blue FS35526 = 1xH45 + 2xH308 + 5xH11 Blue FS35190 = 5xH11 + 1xH308 + 1xH322 Grey H308 All of this was heavily weathered and faded accordingly for this result: Wip was here on the forum if I remember right and on my blog: https://reddogsmodels.wordpress.com/2010/06/13/132-su-27-flanker/ Stunning build and finish, just beautiful! Thanks a zillion red Dog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Ray Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 What about MRP paints? They have Su-27 specific colors. Anyone tried those? Andrea Ferrari, phantomdriver and scvrobeson 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbetty Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) for the pit of my su-27 i got a bottle of MRP paint at a local show for the other colours i bought a su-27 set from Akan (ebay too).i used these on my mig 29 build and they work nice Edited April 4, 2020 by blackbetty Andrea Ferrari 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red Dog Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) Andrea, the above mix gives this result, which IMHO was too contrasted So I simply lightened the whole thing with a mist of light blue: Edited April 4, 2020 by red Dog scvrobeson, Kagemusha, Andrea Ferrari and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrea Ferrari Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 15 minutes ago, LSP_Ray said: What about MRP paints? They have Su-27 specific colors. Anyone tried those? Those look interesting as they do not need custom mixing, but I would love to hear from somebody who has been consistently using them. I am tired and frustrated by Vallejo's inconsistencies from one bottle to the next and I'd like to tread on firmer ground from now on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrea Ferrari Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 19 minutes ago, red Dog said: Andrea, the above mix gives this result, which IMHO was too contrasted So I simply lightened the whole thing with a mist of light blue: For some strange reason the light grey you used on your Su-27 shows up as a pale pink on my monitor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Ray Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Andrea Ferrari said: For some strange reason the light grey you used on your Su-27 shows up as a pale pink on my monitor... Does on mine, too. I was wondering about those color mixes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red Dog Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) pale pink really? Probably a colour white balance issue induced with the blue background? sorry about that Quote Does on mine, too. I was wondering about those color mixes that light grey err pale pink is the only colour that came out of the gunze with no mix at all; it's plain H308. Quote Those look interesting as they do not need custom mixing, but I would love to hear from somebody who has been consistently using them. I am tired and frustrated by Vallejo's inconsistencies from one bottle to the next and I'd like to tread on firmer ground from now on... I do use them since they hit the market (they were not available when I used Gunze on the above Su-27) They are great and spray just fine. The colours are much more specific than the gunze and nowadays I use them more than gunze. So definitely give them a shot, they are great and nothing like the vallejo range IMHO. Edited April 4, 2020 by red Dog Andrea Ferrari and D.B. Andrus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrea Ferrari Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 11 minutes ago, red Dog said: pale pink really? even better that light grey err pale pink is the only colour that came out of the gunze with no mix at all; it's plain H308. I do use them since they hit the market (they were not available when I used Gunze on the above Su-27) They are great and spray just fine. The colours are much more specific than the gunze and nowadays I use them more than gunze. So definitely give them a shot, they are great and nothink like the vallejo range IMHO. Excellent, thanks! Anybody cares to comment on these: HATAKA: Red Line Set (6 pcs) Early Su-27S/P/UB "Flanker-B/C" paint set ? They are readily available in Italy but I have no idea about their quality or airbrushing properties... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radub Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 I have been following the work of Ken Duffey, aka "Flankerman" since I came across his work in Scale Models International magazine back in the early-nineties. On his website he has an old article about the Su-27 kits and at the bottom of the page he lists the colours. http://www.flankers-site.co.uk/su27surv.htm You can use the FS numbers on that page to find the equivalent paint from your favourite paint manufacturer using this https://www.paint4models.com/index.html Flankerman recommends Testors enamels. He also recommends the White Ensign enamels which are now available as "Colorcoats" from Sovereign Models. Also, see this article: http://www.flankers-site.co.uk/modl_trump_flanker.html HTH Radu D.B. Andrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrea Ferrari Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Radub said: I have been following the work of Ken Duffey, aka "Flankerman" since I came across his work in Scale Models International magazine back in the early-nineties. On his website he has an old article about the Su-27 kits and at the bottom of the page he lists the colours. http://www.flankers-site.co.uk/su27surv.htm You can use the FS numbers on that page to find the equivalent paint from your favourite paint manufacturer using this https://www.paint4models.com/index.html Flankerman recommends Testors enamels. He also recommends the White Ensign enamels which are now available as "Colorcoats" from Sovereign Models. Also, see this article: http://www.flankers-site.co.uk/modl_trump_flanker.html HTH Radu Thank you very much Radu, much appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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