Citadelgrad Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Wow is all i can muster. airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Amazing as always my friend! airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett M Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 When I grow up, I want to be like you....... And I'm 40......amazing work as always! airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airscale Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 Hey folks Bit more Fw190 action.. I have been hopping about trying to phase things so I don’t for example do the interior then bash it about while trying to do some heavy engineering on the wings, but in some ways some of it doesn’t matter as any part you pick, ultimately has to be done sometime.. I thought I would get the tailplanes out of the way, so scaled the Bentley plans and made a 2mm card blank – let in and added a rod spar that is located where there is a tube now in the fuselage.. ..by doing it as one part it ensures alignment etc.. ..some templates were added to define the cross section and aerofoil and this was bulked out with P38 filler and primed / worked until I had the basic shapes.. ..added some litho details that can be seen if the elevators are posed anywhere but neutral.. ..drew out the rivet pattern from photo’s and made up 4 skin panels.. ..I noticed the leading edge is a real ‘bull-nose’ and pretty ungainly – it also sits on top of the skin panels as can be seen here.. ..I had made the skins slightly too wide at the leading edge so I can try and replicate this – started by wrapping in annealed litho.. ..then once fixed down it was trimmed to the slight overlap.. ..the tips were in three parts – one bent around the tip laterally in litho that has not been annealed to get a good crisp and strong trailing edge, and then upper & lower skin panels that were softer after annealing.. ..and the finished parts – also added some big fixing rivets on the tips I saw on refs.. ..then onto the wings – they needed the shapes around the ailerons correcting so correctly shaped litho strip sheet parts were cut and faired into the wing – along with removing all the moulded detail from the HB kit.. ..I also used one of the holes in each wing to fill them with expanding foam that goes rock hard inside and gives a solid core.. ..after priming and with a rivet template printed out derived from a photo.. ..then the first panel gets prepared to be laid down with tape as a hinge holding it in position and also masking where I don’t want contact adhesive.. ..the panels sit atop each other like the Spitfire, so these are the first two laid down.. ..now I need some help from the community – I have no rivet plans and have been deriving from photo’s – I have lots of photo’s of the bottom of the wings, but none of the top (without paint so the rivets can be seen) – does anyone know where I might get a good rivet drawing or resto photo’s of the top of the wing? Thanks all in advance & TTFN Peter Trak-Tor, KUROK, Paulpk and 20 others 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Nice work my friend!! I cant help with the upper wing rivet pattern, but here's hoping one of our Fw-190 SMEs will be along shortly airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brahman104 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Another outstanding update Peter! You've covered a huge amount of work in one post. I really like the bull nose step you put in. How did you get it so crisp? Did you use a "buck" of sorts to form it prior to fixing the panel in place? I've also got a lot of catching up to do on your patreon as well.....looking forward to it! Your litho work is really becoming second nature to you these days, a true master! Thanks for giving us our fix of awesomeness! Craig airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett M Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Extraordinary work as always. Sorry I can’t help on the rivets plans, though airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Ray Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 11 hours ago, airscale said: ..now I need some help from the community – I have no rivet plans and have been deriving from photo’s – I have lots of photo’s of the bottom of the wings, but none of the top (without paint so the rivets can be seen) – does anyone know where I might get a good rivet drawing or resto photo’s of the top of the wing? Thanks all in advance & TTFN Peter Incredible work as always, Peter! I have a set of rivet plans for the Fw190A-3. They are from Model Art #316, circa 1980's I believe, in 1/48th scale. Not sure how accurate they are, but match up closely with partials in the AJaKS book on the FW. I will email them to you, hopefully tomorrow. airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoHands Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) I don't know where I got it but I have a multi view line drawing if the V18 with captions in Russian. I either got it from you or saved it with you in mind. I don't have a hosting site so no idea how to get it to you. PS- I sent a message through the Airscale web site. Edited August 2, 2020 by TwoHands airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgem37 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Good show. Maybe yes. Maybe no. Sincerely, Mark Lothar, airscale, Anthony in NZ and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scvrobeson Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Dang that looks good. Really like how the tail surfaces look. Do you ever find issues with applying the skin panels with the positive rivets on the underside? Matt airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wouter Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Maybe the HGW positive rivet set for the fw190 d9 could help? https://hgwmodels.cz/en/pozitivni-nyty/935-fw-190d-9-riveting-set-132-321001.html airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyrosjzmichos Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Seriously impressive work! airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airscale Posted August 23, 2020 Author Share Posted August 23, 2020 afternoon folks On 8/1/2020 at 10:18 PM, brahman104 said: Another outstanding update Peter! You've covered a huge amount of work in one post. I really like the bull nose step you put in. How did you get it so crisp? Did you use a "buck" of sorts to form it prior to fixing the panel in place? I've also got a lot of catching up to do on your patreon as well.....looking forward to it! Your litho work is really becoming second nature to you these days, a true master! Thanks for giving us our fix of awesomeness! Craig Hi Craig - thanks for joining Patreon! hope you are enjoying the videos the bull nose was just formed by anneling the metal and running it over the skin panel underneath - by having an overlap the metal forms a nice stiff line when worked into it... On 8/2/2020 at 4:11 AM, LSP_Ray said: Incredible work as always, Peter! I have a set of rivet plans for the Fw190A-3. They are from Model Art #316, circa 1980's I believe, in 1/48th scale. Not sure how accurate they are, but match up closely with partials in the AJaKS book on the FW. I will email them to you, hopefully tomorrow. On 8/2/2020 at 7:19 AM, TwoHands said: I don't know where I got it but I have a multi view line drawing if the V18 with captions in Russian. I either got it from you or saved it with you in mind. I don't have a hosting site so no idea how to get it to you. PS- I sent a message through the Airscale web site. Thanks Ray & Two Hands - got the info, very helpful in building up a picture On 8/2/2020 at 7:03 PM, scvrobeson said: Dang that looks good. Really like how the tail surfaces look. Do you ever find issues with applying the skin panels with the positive rivets on the underside? Matt Thanks Matt - no issues, I generally sand the panels flat underneath so there is very little variation / undulation by the time it goes down.. On 8/2/2020 at 9:22 PM, Wouter said: Maybe the HGW positive rivet set for the fw190 d9 could help? https://hgwmodels.cz/en/pozitivni-nyty/935-fw-190d-9-riveting-set-132-321001.html Thanks Wouter - I did use those too to try and work out what others had done to realise the patterns - the HGW ones are gennerally good, but miss quite a few out... So, it’s been a while since an update, simply because I have had to reconfigure our house and move my office / workshop to a smaller room to give what I had snagged as the biggest room in the house as a family room as my eldest daughter is expecting and I am to be a Grandad! They don’t live with us (thank God!), but we will need more space for entertaining so I moved lock, stock & barrel into the old Lounge – also bought a display cabinet I had my eye on as part of the bribe… ..but I have now picked up the tools again, and actually reskinned the wings once I got more accurate images on the patterns from Arthur Bentley… like this one.. ..this meant lots of work in coreldraw to interpret these into scale drawings I could use… ..from these drawings I can create the panels.. Here the printout is stuck to litho and an awl used to make each rivet – coreldraw tells me there are 3712 in the wing so far, so it is tedious stuff.. ..next, the panel is cleaned and burnished flat.. ..then broken away and cleaned up.. ..things don’t always go well… here I was about 300 rivets into a panel before I went straight through it as I went over the edge of the cutting board.. ..I thought that panel may overlap others like some of the other panels, but it seems it is flush where it meets the leading edge.. ..and the wing skinning so far.. ..slowly getting there.. TTFN Peter MikeMaben, patricksparks, Starfighter and 24 others 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Kevin Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Insane! Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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