Renegade Posted July 30, 2022 Author Share Posted July 30, 2022 Slots cut out for the slat rails, and a test fit done to see if it aligns well. Then the rails will be glued onto the slat. The two screw jacks below the leading edge, and their hinges that fit on the slat still have to be made. Cheers rafju, thierry laurent, Landrotten Highlander and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) Hi Guys, Next step, the combat flaps. The PLA filament broke up into so many pieces when I cut the combat flap out, that it was like a 3D puzzle to re assemble with lots of CA and filler... Sprayed some primer to do a quick mock up to check the drop angle and slat overlap. Thanks for looking. Cheers Edited August 1, 2022 by Renegade blackbetty, Starfighter, alain11 and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alain11 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Hi John i feel you are motivated !!!!!!! we will get a full option kit ..... good job !!!!!!!!!!! Renegade and rafju 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 Thanks Alain, Yes, it will be a dirty wing, because it just looks so cool with the control surfaces deployed. The spoilers will not be open though, because it is not normal for the aircraft in a static display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheetah11 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Hi John Just a heads up on the flap, slat config. The slats and LE flaps are not deployed by themselves on the ground unless the a/c is being tested. They are fully deployed with the trailing edge flaps and in the full flap setting. This is only seen on the ground in revetments or hangers. On flight lines all LE and TE are normally retracted to prevent dust in the mechanisms. The term Combat Flap was a mode in the air where the Slats / Flaps automatically move to the 1/2 flap position below 300 KIAS. If you need the angles of the flap/slats in various settings just shout. Cheers Nick Renegade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 Hi Nick, Thanks for clearing that up, and it makes sense to protect the mechanisms from dust. It does look awesome when they are deployed though. I do have the flap and slat setting from the manual. I still have to make the plate that covers the gap above the combat flap hinge when it pivots down. Cheers, John thierry laurent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheetah11 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Renegade said: Thanks for clearing that up, and it makes sense to protect the mechanisms from dust. It does look awesome when they are deployed though. Good job John. If you are going to deploy the flaps have a look at the trailing edge flap. They are double slotted and move a fair amount backwards to increase the area when deployed. Cheers Nick Renegade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alain11 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) Hi Nick If I am right ( but you are the expert ) the trailing edge flaps are rarely seen deployed on parked AC , they are extended on particular phases , as take off or landing right ????? . Alain http://www.grubbyfingersshop.com/walkaround_galleries/Dassault_Mirage_F1c_Walkaround_33-LA_French_Belgium_2015/content/Dassault_Mirage_F1c_Walkaround_33-LA_French_24_GraemeMolineux_large.html just for fun , a video dedicated to our SA friends Edited August 1, 2022 by alain11 Renegade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafju Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Hi John @Renegade Very good job, outstanding skills! can't wait for the flaps when I see at what you did on slats! raph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 55 minutes ago, alain11 said: just for fun , a video dedicated to our SA friends Great video, I've watched it many times. 44 minutes ago, rafju said: Hi John @Renegade Very good job, outstanding skills! can't wait for the flaps when I see at what you did on slats! raph Thanks Raph, The flaps and ailerons share a complicated mechanism and housing that splits asymmetric. It's going to be a fun challenge. Cheers, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 3 hours ago, Cheetah11 said: Good job John. If you are going to deploy the flaps have a look at the trailing edge flap. They are double slotted and move a fair amount backwards to increase the area when deployed. Cheers Nick Hi Nick, It is surprising how far they travel to back. Making the slots will be a delicate task, not to mention casting them eventually. Cheers, John Cheetah11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheetah11 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 6 hours ago, alain11 said: Hi Nick If I am right ( but you are the expert ) the trailing edge flaps are rarely seen deployed on parked AC , they are extended on particular phases , as take off or landing right ????? . Hi Alain Every operator most likely had their own rules on the extension of flaps on the ground. In the SAAF the flaps/slats were selected down after parking in revetments. On the outside flight lines the flaps were left retracted when parked. Looking at a few photos this seems to have been the general rule in most air forces operating the F1. As with most rules many exceptions can be seen , so a model would be good in any of the configs. On the ground is a bit of a generalization as flaps were selected down after start and retracted after turning off the runway, so while taxying the flaps could be up or down. Here is a photo with slats/flaps down parked on the ground. Cheers Nick daveculp, Marcel111, alain11 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alain11 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) thanks for your explanations Nick !!! I was looking on the web for Mi F1 on the ground , among all the photos I 've seen , only a few , shows the flaps and slats extended , except on the AC taxing , or taking off ..so , if I understand , the rule , is that there are no rules isn't it ........................ Alain Edited August 1, 2022 by alain11 Renegade and Cheetah11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 It's great to hear the feedback from you guys. So, the solution is then for me to make the flaps and slats to be in either position, and the modeler would assemble them deployed or retracted at their own discretion Cheers, John Cheetah11 and rafju 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade Posted August 6, 2022 Author Share Posted August 6, 2022 Hi Guys, The flaps and aileron cut out. The flap slots were a pain to get the curves and angles. After some primer, I can see that I sanded away a little uneven on some spots, but will get it right. A quick mock up to see what they look like, but will get a better idea later when their brackets and rails are in place. Cheers, John Cheetah11, Sasha As, dutik and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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