Fanes Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) With my Bf 110 finished and the Spitfire project put to a halt, I decided to start my first ever large scale jet build! I've always had a thing for the Starfigher - especially in the livery of the german navy. My build will be Italeri's double seater with some AM. Not having decided which exact plane I'll be building,here's a picture from one of my favourites: (source: airliners.net) I'll post the project inventory later today. Cheers Joachim Edited January 31, 2021 by Fanes title change Derek B, Out2gtcha, scvrobeson and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Good choice Joachim! I have one on the shelf of doom (not due to the kit by my own additions) and it seemed to go together really well so far. I think there was another German TF here finished on the forums. Looking forward to progress! Fanes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Indeed - great choice! Iain Fanes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanes Posted March 13, 2020 Author Share Posted March 13, 2020 Project inventory What will be used? obviously the Italeri kit eduard MB.7 ejection seats (second one is on order) eduard wheels eduard nozzle Master pitot tube additional stuff I'm considering to buy: Quickboost control levers Airscale instrument dials Videoaviation intake covers My plan is to cut masks for most of the insignia and the kit's decals for the stencils. Maybe I need to get decals for the squadron emblems. That's it so far. 8 hours ago, Out2gtcha said: I think there was another German TF here finished on the forums. You're right Brian - there's Bill's build from last year and - although it's a single seater - another Marine Starfighter from Werner! Out2gtcha, themongoose, scvrobeson and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanes Posted March 20, 2020 Author Share Posted March 20, 2020 The original 28+20 No work on th kit so far - I'm still waiting for some small stuff. But I'm already thinking about the finish my Starfighter might recieve. 28+20 or construction number 583F-5950 (built by Messerschmitt) served for quite some time. First flight was in 1967 as part of JaboG 36, transfer to the navy was in 1974 to MFG2 where it was flown until 1986. The photo form my first post is form that era. There are many more out there and they all show a Starfighter in pristine condition. That changed somehow when it was transfered to JaboG 34. There's a beautiful picture from that period on flickr (embedding doesn't work). Afterwards there was a short interlude at LVR 1 before it was sold to the turkish air force in 1987. The history seems to end in 1994 when it presumably got scraped. (source 916-starfighter.de) So after a lot of text - what do you guys think: a clean and typical Marineflieger, or the later version with worn paint with touch ups? MikeC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Williams Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Looking forward to this since I’ve been thinking of doing the same. One thing that I wasn’t sure of was whether the TFs also received the upgraded engine like the single-seaters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanes Posted March 20, 2020 Author Share Posted March 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Dave Williams said: Looking forward to this since I’ve been thinking of doing the same. One thing that I wasn’t sure of was whether the TFs also received the upgraded engine like the single-seaters. That question occupied me for quite some time, too. But 916-starfighter to the rescue - they list the MTU engine for the double seater as well. MikeC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanes Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 The pit I couldn't resist any longer and used a rainy afternoon to start my build! First bits: the Eduard MB-GQ7A ejection seats. After some happy sawing and sanding I tacked some pieces temporarily in place to do a comparison with the kit seat I guess th picture says it all: Next up was the dry fit of the seat rails to the tub and the rear wall which turned out okayish(1 mm too high). Note: I drilled through all the lightening holes in the rails. Speaking of the rear wall - Italeri simplified that part a little bit. Here it is with the real thing in the background (from the marvellous Daco book) I'm not sure if I should start detailing here. It would be a lot of work to get somehow close to the original. More struggle ahead - the ejection seat's handles: The kit part is clearly undersized but the flat PE thingy isn't stellar as well. I guess scratch building it is? And the last comparison for today The Italeri stick compared to the one from Quickboost. Now it gets complicated: the TF-104G didn't use the stick from the F-104G but the one from the F-104A/D. So the Quickboost stick is no match. My idea so far: transplanting the better detailed grip to the kit part. That's all for today Joachim jgrease, Trak-Tor, LSP_Kevin and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lothar Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 I'll be following this with great interest Joachim. I fancy a Belgian one with C-2 seats myself, but there's always a lot to learn from your work. Lothar MikeC and Fanes 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozart Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Will be watching as ever Joachim, one question though.......you’re thinking of a clean finish! Fanes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanes Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 17 hours ago, Lothar said: I'll be following this with great interest Joachim. I fancy a Belgian one with C-2 seats myself, but there's always a lot to learn from your work. Lothar Thanks Lothar! I hope to get to meet you when that Coronoa thingy is over. After all we're just living about 10km apart. 1 hour ago, mozart said: Will be watching as ever Joachim, one question though.......you’re thinking of a clean finish! Shocking - isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozart Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Fanes said: Shocking - isn't it? Unbelievable more like! Double dare you!! Fanes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanes Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 Because of the fine weather I only managed to do some small stuff . The Italeri stick recieved its Quickboost grip (reinforced with a piece of wire) and here it is compared to its sibling Unfortunately Italeri has only included the "fighter style" control column for the front cockpit (seen on the right above) which is wrong for the double seater. Since I can't cast a resin copy of the rear stick, I'll have to look for spare parts. I made my enquiry with the distributor yesterday and they can supply me with the needes parts for ~13€ - that's about a sixth of what I paid for the whole kit! I'll make may decision on that later on. Jumping to the next issue - the front instrument panel coaming. The kit part is - at least to my eye - merely a joke compared to the real thing I'll try to scratch the canvas cover with some foil and I'll dig through my spare parts for the compass (port side on the coaming). Stay tuned. Joachim chrish, Derek B, BradG and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanes Posted March 27, 2020 Author Share Posted March 27, 2020 No progress today but some more AM stuff arrived. The replacement control column from Italeri is being shipped - so I'm good to go crazy on the interior (maybe tomorrow )! Lothar, Isar 30/07, scvrobeson and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozart Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 The Anyz stuff is brilliant Joachim but by golly it’s fiddly and delicate! Go very carefully with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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