mozart Posted April 27, 2020 Author Share Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, quang said: Hah Max! Excellent idea using tin foil to make intakes. You remind me of my old friend Aidan who used to be an expert on modelling NACA intakes in 1/72 using only plasticard. The intricated parts were so tiny that he carried his entire collection in a matchbox. Aah, memories! I can't begin to even think of doing the NACA ducts in plasticard and at that scale Quang, he must have been some kind of masochist! 19 minutes ago, Wegener said: Nice work throughout Max. As an alternative to lead foil (and without the oxidation risk), there is always copper sheet. I picked up some from 4D Modelshop in London while nearby for a conference recently although not had the chance to use it yet. Much more malleable than brass though. Thanks Bob. I tried very thin brass sheet but, as you say, found it not very malleable. I guess copper is a good alternative, one I hadn't thought of but lead foil suits me and at my tender age I don't think I need be too worried about dying from lead poisoning, especially since all our pipes were lead when I were a lad!! (in the Wilds of Wiltshire!!). Edited April 27, 2020 by mozart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quang Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 49 minutes ago, mozart said: I can't begin to even think of doing the NACA ducts in plasticard and at that scale Quang, he must have been some kind of masochist! The guy was REALLY obsessed by NACA intakes. He kept explaining to me how the shapes were complex. He gave me one sample to try and reproduce it in resin. To no avail. It was impossible to extract the master from the silicon mould. As for the lead foil, one option would be to use the foil used on wine bottles. You can drink the wine and use the foil for your intakes Cheers, Quang MikeC and mozart 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quang Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 One thing though: I found out that they use plastic imitation foil on cheaper bottles. For genuine tin foil, you’d have to buy quality wines. Everybody wins! johncrow, mozart and MikeC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B. Andrus Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Stunning work, Max! Cheers, Damian mozart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozart Posted April 27, 2020 Author Share Posted April 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, D.B. Andrus said: Stunning work, Max! Cheers, Damian Thanks Damian, I'm pleased with the way things are going and hope it stays that way! I've done a couple more ducts in a short session this afternoon, I'm getting quicker and more efficient with experience.....like doing quite a bit of pre-shaping and wall-thinning before putting the tube into the fuselage: It probably took me longer to heat and stretch the tube to the correct diameter than it did to fit them, but it's all a learning curve! Chek, Out2gtcha, BradG and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chek Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 hour ago, quang said: The guy was REALLY obsessed by NACA intakes. He kept explaining to me how the shapes were complex. He gave me one sample to try and reproduce it in resin. To no avail. It was impossible to extract the master from the silicon mould. As for the lead foil, one option would be to use the foil used on wine bottles. You can drink the wine and use the foil for your intakes Cheers, Quang Perhaps the really classy stuff laid down years ago still has lead foil, but it's a thicker aluminium foil they use now (when it isn't plastic). That's useable, but not as malleable as lead. mozart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quang Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 The thicker aluminum (not lead) foil is what I’m using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j ferguson Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Max,, Are you alive and well?? worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozart Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) Still alive and kicking thanks!! My Lightning-attention has been slightly deflected of late by this: Blame Lothar, he made me do it!! Back on track with the Big Boy soon! Edited May 10, 2020 by mozart Kagemusha, j ferguson, Uncarina and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozart Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) OK, back on the job! I decided to have a look at the radar bullet assembly. The original kit owner had made up the bullet, but a "housing body" was included in the Aires undercarriage set since the nose wheel retracts into the lower portion, but it did not include of course the pointed shock cone. I wanted to use the Aires piece if possible because the nose wheel well has some good detail in there: Question was, how feasible was it to combine the two? The nose area on the kit is really quite complicated, comprising the intake trunking, the fuselage sides/nose with its cut out for the wheel well, the radar bullet and the intake ring. All need to align accurately and precisely. The 1/32 scale drawings that come with the kit are an enormous help, so checking as carefully as I could I cut off the shock cone from the Echelon kit and mated it to the Aires part - it fitted remarkably well dimensionally so I hope that means I've got it right. I know that I'm going to have to adapt the fitting of the intake ring, Iain has kindly sent me a couple of resin ones that he made, so there's room for error and bodging yet! Edited May 11, 2020 by mozart Lothar, D.B. Andrus, Scotsman and 11 others 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lothar Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Stunning work Max, never would have imagened what this old vac kit can be turned into !! Lothar mozart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kagemusha Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Delighted to see the parts match up, delighted also to see more progress, the Lightning was my Dad's favourite aircraft, so has a very special place in my affections, and this double helping is a true joy. mozart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanes Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) You're a brave man Max for not going the easy way. You're turning that vac kit into something special with your craftsmanship. Edited May 11, 2020 by Fanes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozart Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Lothar said: Stunning work Max, never would have imagened what this old vac kit can be turned into !! Lothar I can't let you down Lothar - it's a very enjoyable challenge but it makes my brain hurt sometimes! 1 hour ago, Kagemusha said: Delighted to see the parts match up, delighted also to see more progress, the Lightning was my Dad's favourite aircraft, so has a very special place in my affections, and this double helping is a true joy. I think the Lightning is a Marmite plane Andy; some (most) see awe and beauty in its brute force and paper thin angular wings but for others it's little more than a flying engine. It's no Spitfire that's for sure. 21 minutes ago, Fanes said: You're a brave man Max for not going the easy way. You're turning that vac kit into something special with your craftsmanship. Hah, good coming from you Joachim with your detailing on your Starfighter! I think in my case it's naivety rather than bravery....I keep telling myself it's only bits of plastic! chrish, Kais, Lothar and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozart Posted May 12, 2020 Author Share Posted May 12, 2020 The various major elements that comprise the front end. I was hoping not to have to grind off the resin casting block underneath the cockpit, but it had to go! and now we can see how it all starts to fit together: BradG, Landrotten Highlander, johncrow and 11 others 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now