Out2gtcha Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 9 hours ago, BiggTim said: Setback!!! I screwed up the front windscreen!!! Anyone have a spare they could part with? Could you do the old chain-drill out the flat part and apply an acetate substitute? Or not possible where the screw-up is? BiggTim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggTim Posted March 13, 2020 Author Share Posted March 13, 2020 5 hours ago, MikeMaben said: Got any other 190s ? Might fit Fresh out! 52 minutes ago, Out2gtcha said: Could you do the old chain-drill out the flat part and apply an acetate substitute? Or not possible where the screw-up is? Possibly. I will remove it this weekend and see if I can polish out the blemish. I had a glue wicking mishap that screwed up the bottom edge on both sides. Usually does a lot of damage that is hard to get out, but I may try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggTim Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) I managed to pop it off and sand/polish the blemishes out well enough to suit me. Already glued back on, and the first two colors of paint are on!! Pics later. Edited March 16, 2020 by BiggTim Out2gtcha, D.B. Andrus, MikeMaben and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 14 hours ago, BiggTim said: I managed to pop it off and sand/polish the blemishes out well enough to suit me. Already glued back on, and the first two colors of paint are on!! Pics later. Thats some good news! Ill take what I can get these days BiggTim, Troy Molitor and chrish 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggTim Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 Progress made on this, too. Three of the base colors were painted this weekend. Needs a little touch up on the RLM 76, then on to the first layer of green camo. When would you guys put suggest that I put on the markings and stencils? The painting guide on the back cover of Crandall's great book is a little misleading. It seems to suggest that the national markings and stencils all go on right after the 76 and 75 colors (stage 1), and get painted over with the camo (stages 2 and 3), BUT then seems to show them clear and sharp AFTER the camo is done. I'm leaning toward putting them all on right after stage 3. D.B. Andrus, Kagemusha, LSP_Kevin and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanGebhardt Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) I am really looking forward to the final result of your work. Great progress so far! Still I thought it is worth to point out that there is, when it comes to the base camouflage of the D-13, a second opinion deviating from Jerry's work. Obviously I am talking about JaPo's analyse published in Volume 2 of Focke Wulf Fw 190D camouflage and markings. Thanks for publishing the instructions for the Eagle Cals (correct me if I am wrong) here, I haven't seen them before. The main difference between Jerry on one side and JaPo on the other is that JaPo starts with a typical camouflaged Dora (two color schema). I am not sure if there will be a second color on the wings, but even then the fuselage itself should have two colours to start with. As a result of this I assume that all stencils etc were overpainted or left out untouched when the 'final' pattern was applied. Keep in mind that the current form of the D-13 as it is displayed right now is not was Jerry imagined it to be. The pattern are way to thick applied and should be way softer and less pronounced. All scans were sourced from: JaPo Focke Wulf Fw 190D camouflage and markings Vol. 2 @Admins: Please let me know or take down the post if there is an issue publishing the scans. Edited March 18, 2020 by StefanGebhardt Antonio Argudo, BiggTim, Kais and 4 others 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggTim Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 That is very intriguing, and helps to explain when the national markings were applied. Any chance I could see the preceding page as well? Martinnfb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanGebhardt Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 39 minutes ago, BiggTim said: That is very intriguing, and helps to explain when the national markings were applied. Any chance I could see the preceding page as well? I updated the post and included all relevant pages. D.B. Andrus and BiggTim 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunnus Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Do you have Jerry Crandall's Dora Volume 2? It has a detailed analysis of Yellow 10's color scheme that contradicts JaPo's interpretation. It's based on grey scale analysis of the black and white photos as well as Mr. Crandall's first hand inspection of the Yellow 10 airframe and specifically refutes the use of RLM81 on Yellow 10. Crandall's Dora book assumes a base camo of 75/76 in contrast to JaPo's 82/81/76. Both interpretations have merit, IMO so it makes the modeler's choice even more confusing. MikeMaben, Troy Molitor, Martinnfb and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggTim Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 35 minutes ago, Thunnus said: Do you have Jerry Crandall's Dora Volume 2? It has a detailed analysis of Yellow 10's color scheme that contradicts JaPo's interpretation. It's based on grey scale analysis of the black and white photos as well as Mr. Crandall's first hand inspection of the Yellow 10 airframe and specifically refutes the use of RLM81 on Yellow 10. Crandall's Dora book assumes a base camo of 75/76 in contrast to JaPo's 82/81/76. Both interpretations have merit, IMO so it makes the modeler's choice even more confusing. No, I don't have that book, but I've been digging around and looking at enough sources and photos that I'm comfortable taking a few liberties with it and forging ahead. Kais, Lothar, MikeMaben and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunnus Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 My scanner is too small but hopefully these digital photos of a few pages from the Dora Volume 2 book will help... Out2gtcha, Anthony in NZ, BiggTim and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMaben Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 7 hours ago, BiggTim said: I'm comfortable taking a few liberties with it and forging ahead. Uncarina, Martinnfb and BiggTim 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggTim Posted April 15, 2020 Author Share Posted April 15, 2020 Back on this one finally! Does anyone have a good scan of the riveting pattern for a Dora I could snag? I'm debating if I want to do it or not, but I need to see what I'm up against. Thanks! Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunnus Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 1 hour ago, BiggTim said: Back on this one finally! Does anyone have a good scan of the riveting pattern for a Dora I could snag? I'm debating if I want to do it or not, but I need to see what I'm up against. Thanks! Tim I can send you a drawings from Kagero Top Drawings No. 3, which I've used as a guide. Message me your email address. I also have scale drawings from the Japanese Model Art book on the 190D that I can scan if you need it. However... I would caution against applying rivets at this stage. It takes some force to poke holes in the plastic and the leverage applied might lead to cracked glue joints or other mishaps. I like to do it when the parts are unattached and as flat as possible so that I can have as solid base. For example, holding the model to do the fuselage rivets would be very awkward with the wings in the way. You really need to have the part fixed and stable for riveting, IMO. BiggTim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaninaustria Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Good advice John! Cheers Alan BiggTim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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