Lud13 Posted January 25, 2020 Author Share Posted January 25, 2020 4 hours ago, MikeMaben said: Black is not required to base silver. I think it has become 'preferred' because Alcad recommends it for their paints. I think the reason for that is that a gloss black surface is great for detecting surface flaws. The surface finish is what changes the appearance of the silver finish. If you apply a solid coat of silver, the base coat isn't going to show thru anyway. When I look at NMF a/c I see more white in the reflectivity than black or dark colors. I primed my Mustang in MRP surface primer and applied some disruptive greys and blues to break up the monotone. My point is, it's not the color of the base coat, it's the surface finish from matt to polished gloss. hth Nice Pony Mike. Is that gray gloss surface or matt ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themongoose Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 The ONLY way I’ve gotten the vallejo primer to work has been to spray it on very thin, almost dry. Definitely not a wet coat. Then i detacked the tamiya tape on my arm 2 to 3 times before using it on the finish coat. Also used sticky notes in some areas with success. It’s a complete waste of time in my opinion. Similar to others here I’ve gone to a satin finish black primer. I use citadel chaos black Primer mostly. Lud13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericg Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Don’t use gloss black. Use a non glossy black paint, in my case I use SMS Camo black or even Tamiya Acrylic black. This gives a nice even sheen of satin black. This will then give a base upon which to build up varying layers of metal such as Alclad to achieve a realistic bare metal finish which can then be glossed over if you which to go for a polished look. It’s all about the way the metal paint is applied. A few tightly mottled coats of the base metal to give it a grain and then lighter coats of the metal to build it up a bit. Wackyracer, Landrotten Highlander, Lud13 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMaben Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) 20 hours ago, Lud13 said: Nice Pony Mike. Is that gray gloss surface or matt ? Thanks Lud, The grey parts are bare plastic parts I stole from a Tamiya kit in order to turn a -5 into a -15. I want to make clear that I'm not criticizing the use of black base as it can be used just fine as demonstrated by Eric's models. Edited January 26, 2020 by MikeMaben Lud13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1to1scale Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 I finally found the test I did a couple years ago. Lud13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lud13 Posted January 30, 2020 Author Share Posted January 30, 2020 16 hours ago, 1to1scale said: I finally found the test I did a couple years ago. That's one great test. Do you have some pictures from test examples directly above them ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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