thierry laurent Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 It looks the situation is more complicated. Some views of "Prime Chance" Kiowas show that additional instrument on the coaming but other pictures corresponding to "Desert Storm" era seem to show another box with a larger width... Unfortunately, finding detailed pictures of Kiowas of that era is REALLY difficult. This was the pre-digital camera era and we are considering operations that were totally or partly classified years after they occur. The probability we will ever get correct pictures of such modifications looks alas very low. The two pictures combined hereunder clearly show a difference. I also found some images showing the boxes from the front of the helos but none of them is really good. And for sure, I did not have one picture showing the instrument face Useless to say some guesswork is required from a modelling perspective... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 And here's a comparison from the front. Alas, I did not find anything better than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Just guessing on the Desert Storm mod, maybe a very early GPS unit? No idea on the Prime Chance bird except possibly an RWR display or a radar altimeter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 I thought as well about a GPS but considered that the screen would be taller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, thierry laurent said: I thought as well about a GPS but considered that the screen would be taller. I think the early units back in the Stone Age, didn’t have any kind of large map display, just a lat / long readout. It was on the user to find his location on a map. thierry laurent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbetty Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 the french version of scalemates is very detailed about the kit, with all acessories mentioned etc. the english version is very basic (as is the german version). my french is good enough to get all the info, but i didnt know the contents in different languages vary so much thierry laurent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 One other noticeable remark: most IP updates I saw are incorrect! Modellers typically add plastic OVER the IP coaming whereas the airbag boxes were actually added in cutouts IN the coaming, just over the MFDs! This is a quite understandable error as there are very few pictures showing the slots between the CABS boxes and the IP coaming edges. From the top, they stay in the shadow and are consequently not visible. Here is one that shows how this should look like: John1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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